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these are you and they in your church

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America that can you Nicole drag you

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through the USA America's the greatest

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land of all on a highway or a road along

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a levee for pharmacist leader nothing

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can beat her life is complete or in go

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folks this is a very special THC I along

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with David a chance to interview Michael

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- sorry on who's definitely one of my

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favorite members of the so-called

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conspiracy community he's an author and

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lecturer which works such as origins and

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Oracle's the Irish origins of

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civilization

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Atlantis alien visitation and genetic

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manipulation and the Terra scope series

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he's an expert on occult knowledge

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history numerology astrology and the

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control hierarchy that a lot of us are

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being influenced by on a daily basis you

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can go to Michael - sorry on comm that's

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Michael TS AR io n comm to learn more

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and check out his works and various

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websites I personally find architects of

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control to be an extremely eye-opening

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DVD along with this 9 hour lecture

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series

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age of manipulation check those out if

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you have any interest and waking up to

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the in your life now let's get

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to it

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Michael - sorry alright I'm honored to

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have you here you're one of my favorite

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alternative researchers for lack of a

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better term I guess and I'll of course

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provide a preface and an introduction

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for you when this episode goes online

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but I'd rather just skip the formalities

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and jump into some of the questions

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because I already know the material is

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very diverse and involved and you know

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we're just gonna scratch the surface so

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I mean is that all right with you let's

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go you know that's great I'm sure I'm

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gonna have no problem with that

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well you know a lot of your work is on

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symbolism and the meaning behind certain

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events and I wanted to hear your

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perspective on two of the biggest events

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recently being the Royal Wedding and the

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apparent death of bin Laden and ask if

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you see any significance in them

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symbolically

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yeah there's and there's not just that

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but there's a lot of other things going

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on I mean one has to say before you even

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start speaking and it comes pure

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tutorial angle just from almost a

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layman's point of view these kinds of

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Fiasco's are they're just a you know

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again either edify people keep them

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distracted or to traumatize them so we

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have a you know sort of a good cop bad

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cop hot coal situation going in which

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they know that now that they've reduced

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the human race to the absolute lowest

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common denominator of intellect that

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then you're just on this sort of slave

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RC level in which everything that come

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every good a good portion of people's

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reality so to speak is a hyper reality a

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fantasy reality a pseudo reality just in

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the same way that young kids would play

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with soldiers you know and we grow up

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playing games once you've been reduced

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to the infantile level you're still in

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that fantasy realm even if you maybe

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forty years of age or whatever it might

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be so you know royal weddings Wars you

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know dramas it's all just big a theater

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the world is just a theater in which you

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have your guys with the Black Caps and

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the guys with the white caps you know

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and there's this whole is it so much

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more world anyway today so much of what

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television of the cinema and the news

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and all the rest of it so a lot of these

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things are just played out on one the

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most basic level is just simply bread

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and circuses for the masses yeah that's

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on the most basic level then what you're

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hinting at though is the more subtle

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levels where there may be some

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ritualistic elements that are much more

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esoteric and much more deep and of

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course I do track that it's a full-time

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job and no doubt about it that anytime

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that the equinox spring equinox comes up

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there's no surprise that this last

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attack on Libya was again at the feast

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of Purim in March

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that it was time for the crossing over

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point of the spring equinox and the date

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equinox is you know March 22nd which is

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3 to 2 which is the famous large number

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of the Skull and Bones Society so that's

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just one reason the most important one

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is the actual physical rising of the Sun

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important time it's also why in America

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that tax time is around that period why

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you know why would tax time that what

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our taxes you know that's the slave

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producing his wages why is it handed

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over at that time that's because the

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stars of Libra are in the sky at that

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time as and the sign of Libra is related

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to the scale which it tax people used to

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come around a door a door in the old

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days even right up to the medieval time

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their logo or their emblem over their

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doors and also they would physically

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carry one around was a big scales large

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scales you'll even hear about this in

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the Bible with Matthew the tax collector

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and the symbol of the tax collectors

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from that time immemorial has been this

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large scales you know when you used to

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balance rice and beans and gold and all

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that and it just turns out that the

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stars of the scales that's Libra is in

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this time of the year and that's one of

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the reasons why the tax the collectors

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so to speak you know the IRS or whatever

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come out to do that so there's there's

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just a welter of symbolism that they're

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using both in their corporate logos and

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their timing of things and you're

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speaking now about two very specific

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events that the III even heard that the

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so call it you know assassination of

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little bin Laden there's is almost on

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the same day as the birth of Adolf

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Hitler it's very close to the time of

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the world Illuminati celebration day May

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15th you know and then most importantly

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astrological things that one needs to

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know about this time and that's why the

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Royal Wedding is been timed now a one

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small anecdote about the Royals is that

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the Queen of England whose birthday is

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actually in May always traditionally is

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celebrated in the sign of Gemini so

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she's a Taurus but she celebrates her

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birthday in Gemini

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um you'll find this kind of displacement

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incident in which he did it were a

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certain festival or celebration this was

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close to the time of lady Spencer's

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killing some sort of celebration was

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marked for October but it didn't

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actually happen until later than that

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and sometimes they do this because again

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they're they're very conscience of you

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know time and side DRL time but the two

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events I was gonna speak about that

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happened in May his one is that the

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astrology the Milky Way begins between

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the signs of Taurus and Gemini and run

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of a large bridge or a river and in fact

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the nation days the Milky Way was work

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was referred to as that as the River

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Styx as the river of the Pharaoh or the

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river the sacred River and therefore

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that is running very close to this

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period right now and a lot of the

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world's traditions including the Maya

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Aztec Egyptian Celtic you name it have

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been precisely arranged for this

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particular time very important

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celebrations I might add and then for

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instance so this particular what they

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call Collier or cusp as it's now

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and Taurus is important because that's

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where we get the word down - or in the

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whole Grecian myth of the hero going

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into the underworld who faced the

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so-called minor tore it's actually a

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play on words mine I being Gemini right

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the end of Gemini and tour being the

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beginning of the word tourist so minor

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tour facing the Minotaur this is how

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these myths and legends fairy tales folk

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tales are created as veneer for Astra

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theological stories traditions that are

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only known to the initiates the people

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who create the movies know this they're

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still doing the same thing that's why

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half the movie companies of the world

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have this tell our symbolism on their

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graphics at the very beginning we PA try

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star or Disney or I don't I don't care

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they're all aware of this stuff you see

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so that's another important portal point

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and that happens in Taurus and so that a

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lot of these things will be coordinated

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for this but then the third and I think

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the most important thing to realize

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about rituals that happen in made is

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that just as I said that during tax time

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the stars of Libra are prominent well in

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the period of Taurus and Gemini where we

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are now it's the stars of the 13 sign of

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Ophiuchus it's actually on the other

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side of the zodiac but at night its

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constellations are in the sky so right

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now why things are very important is

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because that 13th sign under which so

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much ritual is done from this point of

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view if you're talking about the secret

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brother at the Black Lodge the

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Illuminati therefore they're going to

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always target very important the

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relationships are very important

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ceremonies at this time because of the

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presence in the sky of Ophiuchus the 13

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sign and that's an entire study in

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itself so that's one thing to be looking

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into is the the presence of the

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thirteenth sign that's happening right

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now are we just carrying on an old

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tradition with these things or is there

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an astrological draw or is this just

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part of the control scheme it's more

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it's a mixture of all and they do this

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in exactly the same way as you would

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look at a wristwatch it's not automatic

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it's that unconscious in some sense of

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course the planning is conscious and

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what-have-you but what I'm talking about

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is the ideology the idea that you should

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use the cosmological

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symbolism to protect you to work with I

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mean you know I've gone blue in the face

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talking about to my members of time

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gnosis that they all you know who are

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members of that system using even the

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most basic numerology for their

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day-to-day business affairs and so on

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and people get back to me saying you

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know they see incredible they're

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actually come speechless with the amount

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of empowerment that they get from that

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kind of system well that's just you know

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that's just a module we've created

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that's a very simplistic but you know

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brilliant system think about if you had

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centuries of knowledge that you could

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draw upon that you were that your

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advisers

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you know hi great astronomers and

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astrologers people who use so much

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intimate details about symbolism about

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numerology about the divination and so

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on and alchemy and what-have-you so

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obviously when they have this great

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power they want to use it there they're

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very clever in that sense and that's why

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they maintain the power that they have

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because really they're not able to

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maintain it in other ways that we look

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at history we'll see that they've had

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great setbacks as well they've not only

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had great infighting these Royals and

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these dynasties but you know times have

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changed like if you examine what

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happened in the aftermath of the first

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and second world war the rise of the

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labor parties the rise of the common man

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to be educated and so on they've had

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major setbacks they've had to make a lot

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of concessions and they've had to scale

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back their overt power what I'm saying

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is that the way that they used to

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maintain power by way of the whip and

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buy some Barons that known as in his

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mansion with you know an army of slaves

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I mean those days are over you know to

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me they couldn't maintain that anymore

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so they're to scale that back somewhat

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but these are very cunning people who

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know that ultimately even though you may

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have to scale back back or you may have

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to downsize or whatever doesn't mean you

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necessarily have to go out of business

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you just become more coming at it and

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more structure at it and we know this is

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an absolute fact because we see the same

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thing happening in the Balkans now after

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that fall of communism exactly what I'm

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saying took place where you have in the

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Balkans after the Communists you had

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many of the aristocratic oligarchical

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families of the old days you know the

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old austro-hungarian Empire and all of

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these people who've been living in

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London since the rise of communism their

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daughters and sons very aristocratic

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people have gone back to you know

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Yugoslavia Romania Bulgaria to set up

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shop even some of them have moved back

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into ancestral homes of the palaces that

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are still there albeit dilapidated and

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what's the very first thing that happens

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is that all the local yokels right used

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to be slaves their fathers used to be

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slaves under these oligarchs are now

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laying on red carpets and tipping their

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caps to these Slavic oligarchs just so

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glad to have them back now that the you

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know the rotten communists have

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disappeared

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welcome your

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and we'll be glad to bend our backs and

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pick your potatoes and do your grapes

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for you you know I'm create your vine

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yards like nothing has ever happened

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they're actually begging for oligarchy

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to come back so let's not forget that

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that's exactly the same paradigm as in

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the West

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if these Western oligarchs pompous

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bastards that they are if they could get

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away with an army of Irish laborers and

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and you know slave labor they'd still be

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doing it you know take my word for it

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it's just that they weren't able to get

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that so they have to then use other

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means to secure their power and one of

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those is the use of this incredible

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archive of symbolism to befuddle to

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mind-control to create situations in

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which people start Auto hypnotizing

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themselves astrology is part of it of

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course and that's why you will have the

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flag-waving

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yokel you know Joe snows coming out

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waving their flags you know if it's

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still to this day or even worse dawning

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uniforms to go out and be murdered and

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to murder in the name of these oligarchs

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or the institutions that these

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oligarchies control where my work

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exposes what these institutions are

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people can go to my forum that can

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contact me to find out the network of

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royal orgs you know I have a on my form

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a a page there called Empire of death

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people only need to go to that and start

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reading that meticulously studying the

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links that I put up there and they will

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find just how fast this allegorical

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network is even though it may be

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somewhat in the background

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hiding behind charities institutions

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like medical and educational and and

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philanthropic it's the same story you

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have in America with the Council on

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Foreign Relations the Trilateral

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Commission to the rand Institute the

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Brookings Institute all of these orbs

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are royal they're their offshoots of the

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Royal Institute of International Affairs

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in the Munk Carolyn Society and so on so

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forth or the club of the Isles and all

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of these alpha lodges of Freemasonry and

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they've been slowly moving into the

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American milieu they carry the symbolism

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that's almost identical to that which is

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used by the oligarchs of England and

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they did that through your American

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Constitution and through the founding

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fathers who were nothing less than

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most of the founding fathers were

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freemasons correct yeah almost all of

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them and when people have to realize it

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when they say that they've got to

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understand that saying Freemason doesn't

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really tell you that much

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some of these people were not only

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freemasons but very high degree

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freemasons that's the point they were

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not just your common you know like your

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dad or my dad going down to the lodge

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you know that kind of thing you know

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having a few drinks and all that to hold

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a good fit oh yes it's a totally

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different world so always have to at

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that point that number one I'm not a

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dining normal Freemasons and this in any

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sense nor am I indicating that these

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people are of your normal traditional

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three Masonic type that the local you

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know pub owner or the local you know

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governor or even to that extent or you

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know police chief or whatever it's far

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far higher than that these people come

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from dynastic families Livingstone

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Menzies oh my god you know that list

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goes on all these families that

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sinclair's and the Kellogg's and you

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know whatever there's so many families

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the bloodline families really yeah I uh

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I mean I'm pretty pretty vested in your

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work and I had Dave watch architects of

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controllers recently and we also watched

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a little bit of age manipulation which

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is I believe in nine hour series

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something like that yeah it's great but

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considering that this information is

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kind of new to a large part of my

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audience can you sort of broadly talk to

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us about the history of the control and

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some of the major lives we've been told

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and including our origins and I also was

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always curious as like what was what is

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really the point outside of I guess to

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control to hide that information from us

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because you could tell us a real history

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in some ways and really just with an

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economic model still enslave us

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well slavery is a what you are talking

449
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about is slavery but slavery is

450
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ultimately a model that doesn't work

451
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unless you have hierarchy so when you

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are studying one thing like say slavery

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or look at you know just my nine-to-five

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job I'm locked in there or I hit my boss

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or look at Who I am in this university

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I've tried my best but all these guys

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above me you know whatever way the

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little man starts to already start

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asking questions that leave one thing to

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another it's like

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described as pulling a little thread

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then the red becomes a string the string

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becomes a rope the Rope becomes a chain

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and the next thing you know you've got a

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big deal you know wail in your living

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room so these things one leads to the

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other and then you start studying

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slavery or debt slavery or what have you

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and then you start moving up to say yeah

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who are these corporations and you go

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beyond and these start finding out

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about these secret societies that are

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all over the world and chivalric orders

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and their antiquity and then somebody

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like me would state oh wait a minute you

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know as you've said from the beginning

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the symbolism tells you well that's

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crazy because there's a lot of Egyptian

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symbolism it's not a Jude what appears

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to be Jewish symbolism oh how does why

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is that I wonder how does that work you

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know one thing keeps leading to the

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other and then you start finding it goes

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deeper and deeper all the way back

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through Babylon you know the monetary

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system back to Rome symbolism all of

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this goes all the way back to Egypt you

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start tracking all of this and the

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moment that you're getting wiser and

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wiser and the moment you're getting

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smarter and smarter on this or let's

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just use the symbolism I use a lot of a

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mountain you're getting higher and

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higher there's a dark side and that is

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you're getting further and further away

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from the people that you grew up with

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right until actually right so just as

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you're about to turn around and go hey

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guys you know here I can give you a

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handle on what's going down here and

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this can be an even a quite small way

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you know nobody wants to hear so then

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that apathy starts taking you again in

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another direction and what I mean by

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that of course is then you're into the

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study of psychology because now you have

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to say that there's a relationship

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between the slave and the master it's

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not just a straight situation of control

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we tried to I'm speaking like this

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because you jog my memory about the

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architects of control DVD where we went

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into this more than at other times in

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which we start to try and point out that

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this is a slave master relationship and

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that can't be understood at all until

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you understand what it is in the mind of

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the slave that wants to have the master

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wants to obey authority you know this

520
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takes you into then a lot of what to me

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is more fascinating information because

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as you well know most of the people in

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conspiracy folk are the people who are

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into revisionism we'll put the focus

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mostly on that over control and they

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implying by that that the slave actually

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would love to be free see I've never

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believed this I actually believe that

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it's a relationship just in the same way

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that you can hear them say it I mean we

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listen all this Huxley in people like

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that to be glad to tell you this that

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man has been a slave and he is almost a

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he's an instrument in his own

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enslavement that what has happened down

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through the centuries is that the slave

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has just exchanged chains of iron for

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chains of gold metaphorically speaking

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you know if you can have a better a bit

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less punitive treatment he'll be you'll

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be okay with that he doesn't really want

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to leave the walls of the prison right

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00:21:27,140 --> 00:21:23,910
so the person like me is standing there

544
00:21:29,780 --> 00:21:27,150
saying but the gates can be open wide

545
00:21:31,549 --> 00:21:29,790
open and you can all leave and they're

546
00:21:35,030 --> 00:21:31,559
all sitting there going no you leave we

547
00:21:37,010 --> 00:21:35,040
want we're happier so then what happens

548
00:21:38,659 --> 00:21:37,020
is this road then takes you into a study

549
00:21:40,730 --> 00:21:38,669
of psychology and the dynamics of

550
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:40,740
consciousness and what have you and then

551
00:21:46,669 --> 00:21:42,570
you start putting your finger on the

552
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:46,679
very next of it the very nub of this

553
00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:48,450
whole problem that you then see played

554
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,580
out in this in society or played out in

555
00:21:54,049 --> 00:21:52,559
politics whereas that it's a

556
00:21:57,919 --> 00:21:54,059
relationship between the slave and the

557
00:22:01,669 --> 00:21:57,929
master and you understand then the

558
00:22:02,990 --> 00:22:01,679
brilliance of the controller the big

559
00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:03,000
brother sort of speak as that term has

560
00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:04,860
been used because they're aware of this

561
00:22:08,210 --> 00:22:06,809
now as you start getting really clever

562
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:08,220
with this because you realize that the

563
00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:09,570
slave doesn't want to really be free and

564
00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:11,340
then if he gives up one set of chains he

565
00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:13,950
just buys into another one and then you

566
00:22:17,150 --> 00:22:15,240
start to understand that it's the slave

567
00:22:18,530 --> 00:22:17,160
master who is understood this this is

568
00:22:21,620 --> 00:22:18,540
part of the occult knowledge that they

569
00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:21,630
use so one angle of this could take you

570
00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:22,740
into studying ancient history as a

571
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,750
historian but another direction can take

572
00:22:29,030 --> 00:22:26,400
you into studying philosophy or say even

573
00:22:31,789 --> 00:22:29,040
psychology and keep it contemporary keep

574
00:22:34,580 --> 00:22:31,799
it you know contemporary to what's

575
00:22:36,530 --> 00:22:34,590
happening now yeah now me obviously you

576
00:22:38,210 --> 00:22:36,540
need to do both as much as possible but

577
00:22:39,530 --> 00:22:38,220
for me the more intriguing aspect is the

578
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:39,540
psychology because then you're kind of

579
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:40,890
understanding you're seeing through

580
00:22:43,970 --> 00:22:41,970
their eyes you're seeing through the

581
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:43,980
eyes of the master if the master can

582
00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:46,320
create a situation in which his slave is

583
00:22:50,540 --> 00:22:48,840
auto hypnotized like God then the game

584
00:22:53,390 --> 00:22:50,550
is up because the the sleigh

585
00:22:55,610 --> 00:22:53,400
doing his own hypnotizing he's

586
00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:55,620
completely on remote control as we spoke

587
00:23:00,350 --> 00:22:58,410
about in the DVD and and and then when

588
00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:00,360
you not gonna move on to talk about

589
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:04,440
remedies to these problems my person

590
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:05,850
like myself who's made a study of this

591
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:08,370
is no longer really convinced that

592
00:23:12,830 --> 00:23:11,250
political change is really going to work

593
00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:12,840
we don't rule it out but we're certainly

594
00:23:18,020 --> 00:23:16,470
not as optimistic about that kind of

595
00:23:19,780 --> 00:23:18,030
change we understand now that the change

596
00:23:22,010 --> 00:23:19,790
has to take on an individual

597
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:22,020
psychological level that's where the

598
00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:24,090
Gordian knot is as I said a lot of this

599
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:25,500
master/slave relationship stuff can be

600
00:23:28,750 --> 00:23:27,360
found or even on a day to day basis in

601
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:28,760
the place of work even in the home

602
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,930
certainly in the relationship of parents

603
00:23:34,340 --> 00:23:32,640
to children and teachers and society to

604
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:34,350
the young and all the rest of it and

605
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:37,770
then ultimately internally the the

606
00:23:42,530 --> 00:23:40,050
relationship we have with our own selves

607
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:42,540
internally so and what I mean by that is

608
00:23:45,860 --> 00:23:44,130
it's a strange quirk of human nature

609
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:45,870
that as soon as you're born you have two

610
00:23:50,570 --> 00:23:48,090
enemies so to speak to adversaries one

611
00:23:52,190 --> 00:23:50,580
is the utter world of all of its you

612
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:52,200
know quandary and tribulations and

613
00:23:56,450 --> 00:23:54,930
stimuli you have that defend against

614
00:23:59,330 --> 00:23:56,460
that you've got to negotiate all of that

615
00:24:01,040 --> 00:23:59,340
all the ups and downs and and the

616
00:24:02,780 --> 00:24:01,050
shenanigans of the external world in

617
00:24:04,940 --> 00:24:02,790
order to stay sane and to be able to

618
00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:04,950
function but we're also as human beings

619
00:24:09,770 --> 00:24:06,870
have this internal world what apparently

620
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:09,780
is the subjective world to deal with you

621
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:11,610
know our own complexes our own syndromes

622
00:24:17,450 --> 00:24:13,410
so human beings stand on the sort of

623
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:17,460
Twilight Zone between an external world

624
00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:20,130
that's threatening and impenetrable

625
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,260
zones so to speak and you have this

626
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:24,960
internal world and the Masters at the

627
00:24:28,850 --> 00:24:26,700
top of the ladder know all about this

628
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,860
and one of the methodologies that then

629
00:24:36,110 --> 00:24:30,240
they use to keep people in a state of

630
00:24:38,150 --> 00:24:36,120
total lockdown is this trauma and the

631
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:38,160
constant fear and the constant anxiety

632
00:24:42,650 --> 00:24:39,810
knowing full well that if you create a

633
00:24:44,810 --> 00:24:42,660
lot of external tribulation of whatever

634
00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:44,820
kind of may be hidden and more obvious

635
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:46,440
that will have a psychological

636
00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:48,090
consequence in which the person

637
00:24:53,870 --> 00:24:50,670
themselves is just literally drowning

638
00:24:56,660 --> 00:24:53,880
you know in anxiety and it's through

639
00:25:00,280 --> 00:24:56,670
this fear equals anxiety dynamic that

640
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:00,290
the greatest control operates really

641
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:03,810
when you mention the trauma it makes me

642
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:04,410
think about it

643
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:07,110
your work and other work as well from

644
00:25:12,290 --> 00:25:09,840
jordan maxwell or david ige a lot of

645
00:25:15,740 --> 00:25:12,300
this is is ancient trauma that comes

646
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:15,750
from the origins of our species which is

647
00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:19,110
it's interesting that all biblical to

648
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:21,900
all ancient texts talk about you know

649
00:25:26,090 --> 00:25:24,810
gods come in from the sky and like to me

650
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:26,100
i can completely see that being

651
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:28,650
extraterrestrials and not gods

652
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,510
there's in translation that would be

653
00:25:35,780 --> 00:25:32,400
hard to differentiate between the two

654
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:35,790
it is also it's interesting that we're

655
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:38,310
the only beam I know of that has two

656
00:25:42,730 --> 00:25:40,650
chromosomes fused into one slot and I

657
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:42,740
don't see that anywhere in nature

658
00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:45,330
exactly there's so many bizarre things

659
00:25:49,550 --> 00:25:48,030
about the human being I've written about

660
00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:49,560
these in the Atlantis book on into great

661
00:25:53,780 --> 00:25:52,560
detail on this and again I would say

662
00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:53,790
that even if you just start from a non

663
00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:56,190
conspiratorial point of view which means

664
00:26:00,110 --> 00:25:57,720
if you come buy into the idea of alien

665
00:26:02,090 --> 00:26:00,120
invasion or whatever just the very fact

666
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:02,100
of Earth changes just the very fact of

667
00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:03,690
Cataclysm in a physical sense

668
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:04,860
there are many authors who've written

669
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:06,090
about this who haven't the faintest idea

670
00:26:10,490 --> 00:26:07,890
about conspiracy and yet they still

671
00:26:13,270 --> 00:26:10,500
conclude that the mind was traumatized

672
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:13,280
one of those people as Julie and James

673
00:26:17,270 --> 00:26:15,840
you know the great scientist so and he's

674
00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:17,280
not the only one so there's people from

675
00:26:22,550 --> 00:26:19,380
within the traditional world who have

676
00:26:24,170 --> 00:26:22,560
accepted that psychologically man

677
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:24,180
suffered a major trauma there's actually

678
00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:25,710
a whole school of these people I refer

679
00:26:28,940 --> 00:26:27,630
to them in my DVD I book their names are

680
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:28,950
right there for people to follow that up

681
00:26:32,750 --> 00:26:31,110
who have actually concluded that man is

682
00:26:34,460 --> 00:26:32,760
a traumatized being they all have sort

683
00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:34,470
of different I takes on what caused the

684
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:37,500
trauma but they somewhat agree that some

685
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:39,090
sort of earth changes whether it was

686
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:41,910
desertification lack of rain or it might

687
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:43,110
have been volcanoes or it might have

688
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:44,730
been you know the Biblical Flood some of

689
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,170
them even do believe in that that

690
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:48,240
through the work of Immanuel Velikovsky

691
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:50,610
and others and Commons Beaumont and

692
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:52,710
others they do recognize that the world

693
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:54,930
was you know rent by enormous disaster

694
00:26:59,690 --> 00:26:56,730
so even if you don't buy into an

695
00:27:03,410 --> 00:26:59,700
extraterrestrial presence

696
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:03,420
it still is factual enough to say that

697
00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:05,370
the earth itself through playing through

698
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:08,100
famine through Cataclysm through tidal

699
00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:09,810
waves and tsunamis and even a pole ship

700
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:11,340
or all of this is now coming to light

701
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:14,640
and in very recent times that alone will

702
00:27:17,930 --> 00:27:16,650
convince an open-minded person that

703
00:27:20,629 --> 00:27:17,940
something enormous to

704
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:20,639
place to the psyche of man in my opinion

705
00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:21,809
there's no doubt about it there can't be

706
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:23,460
any doubt about it and it is good to see

707
00:27:28,610 --> 00:27:25,740
that now that David for one has been

708
00:27:31,070 --> 00:27:28,620
talking about that and his latest work

709
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:31,080
is looking into the Cataclysm somewhat

710
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:34,110
and that's great because I insist that

711
00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:35,850
it needs to be studied you know it's the

712
00:27:38,899 --> 00:27:37,620
center of my work and it's very

713
00:27:42,430 --> 00:27:38,909
important to understand that that

714
00:27:44,629 --> 00:27:42,440
particular original biological

715
00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:44,639
physiological humble psychological

716
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:45,120
trauma

717
00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:48,720
aided and abetted the Masters later on

718
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:51,000
they know about it they know that the

719
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:52,799
psyche is fragmented they probably know

720
00:27:58,639 --> 00:27:55,769
a great deal about it and they have said

721
00:28:00,619 --> 00:27:58,649
well listen that happened fortunately so

722
00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:00,629
all we got to do is sort of maintain a

723
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:04,409
constant and a culture of trauma in

724
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:05,820
order to bring in whatever agenda

725
00:28:09,710 --> 00:28:07,710
they're doing they bring it in on the

726
00:28:11,749 --> 00:28:09,720
back of that of wars or famines of

727
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:11,759
poverty of tremendous social injustice

728
00:28:16,009 --> 00:28:14,370
and then the psychological versions of

729
00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:16,019
disorders that are rampant all over the

730
00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:18,360
world if the mind is already schizoid

731
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:19,470
and it's very origin

732
00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:21,210
if what we have is today's consciousness

733
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,409
is schizoid in its origin then it's very

734
00:28:31,820 --> 00:28:27,360
simple to create yet further forms of

735
00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:31,830
you know schizo schizo free Nia in human

736
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:33,419
beings and then since human beings

737
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:34,529
through their life force through their

738
00:28:38,690 --> 00:28:36,330
energy create the societies that go on

739
00:28:40,909 --> 00:28:38,700
to then create the social sociological

740
00:28:42,769 --> 00:28:40,919
setting obviously those societies will

741
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:42,779
then be skitzy Genii and then it becomes

742
00:28:47,450 --> 00:28:44,730
a feedback loop the schizo genic

743
00:28:52,990 --> 00:28:47,460
societies create yet further children

744
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:53,000
who are polarized fragmented narrow

745
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:54,720
spirit lists of whatever you want to

746
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:56,159
call it and then they go on to create

747
00:28:59,180 --> 00:28:57,690
yet more so that's why we're heading

748
00:29:01,279 --> 00:28:59,190
towards this post human world that's in

749
00:29:03,649 --> 00:29:01,289
a long time in the making and it doesn't

750
00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:03,659
happen to through one threat it's very

751
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:06,120
deeply disturbed people to the point

752
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:07,769
where now they're even wanting to shut

753
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:10,110
down emotion people are not in any way

754
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:12,809
it attuned to their own emotions for

755
00:29:17,019 --> 00:29:14,399
goodness sake you know and then that

756
00:29:19,970 --> 00:29:17,029
brings up a huge a big pharma Leviathan

757
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:19,980
to take care of that again because what

758
00:29:23,779 --> 00:29:21,809
man will do and what man has been

759
00:29:25,340 --> 00:29:23,789
traditionally doing and one thing we

760
00:29:27,859 --> 00:29:25,350
must insist is that you can see more of

761
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:27,869
this as we countdown to 2012 and beyond

762
00:29:31,460 --> 00:29:29,279
what I'm going to say now is going to be

763
00:29:33,020 --> 00:29:31,470
increasing as the years go by

764
00:29:34,850 --> 00:29:33,030
but it has been happening in the past

765
00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:34,860
all down through the ages is that when a

766
00:29:38,539 --> 00:29:36,870
human being has that inner anxiety I was

767
00:29:41,690 --> 00:29:38,549
talking about would have to confront all

768
00:29:44,649 --> 00:29:41,700
the inner syndromes and complexes one of

769
00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:44,659
the methodologies that the ego uses to

770
00:29:49,460 --> 00:29:47,340
offset responsibility or to just escape

771
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:49,470
that in our trauma is to project it

772
00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:51,330
outwards is to simply say that the

773
00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:54,179
reason for all their disorderly feelings

774
00:30:00,440 --> 00:29:56,760
or this feeling of anxiety or stress or

775
00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:00,450
whatever it might be its externally it's

776
00:30:03,529 --> 00:30:01,470
because of this and that and the other

777
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:03,539
is because of the economy it's because

778
00:30:07,850 --> 00:30:06,090
of the wars it's because of you know

779
00:30:09,649 --> 00:30:07,860
relationships or whatever man will

780
00:30:11,630 --> 00:30:09,659
always find ways to project his inner

781
00:30:14,060 --> 00:30:11,640
angst onto the external world place the

782
00:30:15,950 --> 00:30:14,070
blame there and then step back and then

783
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:15,960
again want some authority figure to come

784
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:17,610
in and lead them or guide the Mort or

785
00:30:21,710 --> 00:30:19,919
fix it so we have this problem as well

786
00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:21,720
is what's called the transference the

787
00:30:25,370 --> 00:30:23,750
displacement or the sublimation and

788
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:25,380
people not taking personal

789
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:27,330
responsibility for their consciousness

790
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:30,690
or their lives and then happily in some

791
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:32,450
sense of the word projecting it outwards

792
00:30:36,380 --> 00:30:34,710
and then either going to some high

793
00:30:37,789 --> 00:30:36,390
priest in the sense of even religion or

794
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:37,799
the high priest of psychology or

795
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:39,809
psychiatry well that's another

796
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:41,610
master/slave relationship this is the

797
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:43,289
dynamic that happens when people have

798
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:45,330
lost so much of their own power hmm

799
00:30:49,580 --> 00:30:48,090
everyone's looking for an expert yes and

800
00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:49,590
that's alright to a degree naturally

801
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:50,820
there are experts who are smarter than

802
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:52,770
us and it's good to find out what they

803
00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:54,570
have to say but not to the extent where

804
00:30:58,669 --> 00:30:56,580
you've given up completely the reins of

805
00:31:00,049 --> 00:30:58,679
your own thinking your own biology and

806
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:00,059
even to certain extent your own bio

807
00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:02,490
Reiner Jack's your own bio energetic

808
00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:03,929
energy is no longer under your own

809
00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:06,600
control somebody else rules almost every

810
00:31:10,820 --> 00:31:09,030
aspect of your life in the same way that

811
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,830
the dominating parent controls every

812
00:31:14,409 --> 00:31:12,720
single aspect of the child's life to the

813
00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:14,419
extent where the child becomes neurotic

814
00:31:21,289 --> 00:31:18,990
because if a parent let's just use this

815
00:31:22,970 --> 00:31:21,299
metaphor of the parents the child is

816
00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:22,980
already put into a state of neuroses

817
00:31:27,770 --> 00:31:26,280
because it's scared that if it does a

818
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:27,780
bad deed it will lose the love of its

819
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:29,250
parents I mean it's it's just psychology

820
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:31,890
101 right so child fears on I don't want

821
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:35,970
to do bad things because the parent will

822
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:37,710
get angry or the parent will get cold or

823
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:39,330
the parent might reprimand me and the

824
00:31:42,260 --> 00:31:40,740
parent might even in the most extreme

825
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,270
case

826
00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:45,360
lose love and I'll lose that security

827
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:48,120
and I'll lose that love of my parent

828
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:49,890
right the authority figure so that's

829
00:31:54,650 --> 00:31:52,410
what causes the child to then do good so

830
00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:54,660
to speak and many psychologists have

831
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:56,190
argued is the child really doing good

832
00:32:00,620 --> 00:31:58,650
out of its own true actual moral you

833
00:32:02,060 --> 00:32:00,630
know nature or is it because it knows

834
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:02,070
it's going to get punished but that's a

835
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:03,210
separate thing we don't need to go into

836
00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:05,130
all we need to look at is there is this

837
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:09,270
feeling and then the child's acts of

838
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:11,940
badness what what would constitute one

839
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:14,010
of those acts of badness rebellion oh

840
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:16,650
right aggression if the child is already

841
00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:18,510
worried about a mere infraction bringing

842
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:21,150
the disapproval of the parent the child

843
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,320
is fully aware that if it acts

844
00:32:26,930 --> 00:32:24,960
completely aggressively or stands up

845
00:32:29,390 --> 00:32:26,940
against the parent for even the parents

846
00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:29,400
misdemeanors it will suffer an

847
00:32:33,650 --> 00:32:31,980
incredible wave of retaliation right so

848
00:32:35,630 --> 00:32:33,660
what then happens is in the child's mind

849
00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:35,640
the next level of repression is of the

850
00:32:40,130 --> 00:32:38,940
aggressive instincts and see what my

851
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:40,140
message is that these aggressive

852
00:32:43,490 --> 00:32:41,850
instincts are not all necessarily bad

853
00:32:44,990 --> 00:32:43,500
when something rotten is happening to

854
00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:45,000
you you should act aggressively you

855
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:47,100
should not be alright with it but very

856
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:48,809
early on as children we learned that any

857
00:32:55,030 --> 00:32:51,360
act of aggression whatsoever will be

858
00:32:57,770 --> 00:32:55,040
immediately caused enormous ly painful

859
00:33:00,140 --> 00:32:57,780
reactions you know like like I say the

860
00:33:02,180 --> 00:33:00,150
complete loss of love from a parent let

861
00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:02,190
alone all these other consequences that

862
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,230
might happen so the instinctive

863
00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:07,200
aggression which is a natural bio inert

864
00:33:15,650 --> 00:33:12,630
energetic response to the violation of

865
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:15,660
your integrity and the violation of

866
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:19,440
yourself food you repress it in order to

867
00:33:23,810 --> 00:33:21,809
identify with the master to identify and

868
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:23,820
get their approval so in other words

869
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:25,050
you're willing to accept any kind of

870
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,880
tyranny and even accept the approval of

871
00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:28,559
that tyranny because you've repressed

872
00:33:32,419 --> 00:33:30,630
your own instinct of aggression and that

873
00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:32,429
act of aggression might have been as a

874
00:33:34,850 --> 00:33:34,230
defense against the violation of your

875
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:34,860
self ooh

876
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:37,530
so this is what we see when then we take

877
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:38,760
a step forward and move into the

878
00:33:42,110 --> 00:33:40,110
political world or into the sociological

879
00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:42,120
world that's what we have we have a

880
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:45,030
world of smiling depressives each one of

881
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:47,330
us seeking the approval of others and

882
00:33:52,010 --> 00:33:50,370
and there's an it's a soft tyranny that

883
00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:52,020
is taking place and the moment that any

884
00:33:55,820 --> 00:33:54,840
individual and is and this is the crux

885
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:55,830
of the matter

886
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:57,090
and people are gonna think deeply about

887
00:34:00,830 --> 00:33:58,559
what I'm gonna say now they will have a

888
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:00,840
big big piece of the answer here and

889
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:06,330
that is that the anxiety exists when any

890
00:34:10,490 --> 00:34:09,089
kind of show of salford emerges so in

891
00:34:12,020 --> 00:34:10,500
other words that the person who is

892
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:12,030
repressed their instincts the person who

893
00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:13,980
is completely self mutilated their own

894
00:34:18,919 --> 00:34:16,710
self with their anxiety is not a true

895
00:34:21,619 --> 00:34:18,929
anxiety right their stress is not a true

896
00:34:22,970 --> 00:34:21,629
stress it's the stress of that cell food

897
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:22,980
which doesn't go away trying to

898
00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:26,129
re-emerge healthily so the person's own

899
00:34:30,169 --> 00:34:28,020
neurosis the person's own disorders of

900
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:30,179
which we know the world is a washing is

901
00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:32,129
actually a pseudo anxiety a pseudo

902
00:34:36,980 --> 00:34:34,919
despair a pseudo distress because you're

903
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:36,990
actually been repressing yourself food

904
00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:38,700
and that cell food being a natural

905
00:34:42,589 --> 00:34:40,980
organic spiritual thing doesn't die you

906
00:34:44,570 --> 00:34:42,599
can repress it but doesn't go away

907
00:34:47,089 --> 00:34:44,580
anytime that it tries to re-emerge in

908
00:34:48,859 --> 00:34:47,099
whatever form that now causes your

909
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:48,869
anxiety so the anxieties of the world

910
00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:50,250
today and the stresses of the world

911
00:34:53,329 --> 00:34:51,960
today are actually based on their on

912
00:34:56,450 --> 00:34:53,339
their true voice trying to make a

913
00:34:58,220 --> 00:34:56,460
reimagines so it's incredible hardest

914
00:35:00,740 --> 00:34:58,230
thing works and therefore you're

915
00:35:01,970 --> 00:35:00,750
actually self-mutilating yourself it's

916
00:35:04,099 --> 00:35:01,980
the self murder that I talked about

917
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,109
incessantly the self sadism that's going

918
00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:06,480
on and you do it to get the approval of

919
00:35:09,170 --> 00:35:08,550
these slave masters who are pretty much

920
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:09,180
in the same boat

921
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:11,280
they are the self murder and then they

922
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:12,960
encourage you to self murder yourself

923
00:35:17,630 --> 00:35:15,330
and then you do it and then any anxiety

924
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:17,640
that exists today is not Gregg the

925
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:19,050
anxiety of oh my god I wish we were all

926
00:35:23,329 --> 00:35:21,089
free I just wish we could get rid of Big

927
00:35:25,609 --> 00:35:23,339
Brother and I'm losing sleep because

928
00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:25,619
we're in a slave ah Chrissy no the

929
00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:27,630
stress is oh gee I wish I could get her

930
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:28,980
better placement in that slave ah

931
00:35:32,780 --> 00:35:31,140
Chrissy gee my biggest problem is I wish

932
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:32,790
I could really get rid of myself and

933
00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:34,050
completely I wish it wouldn't bother me

934
00:35:37,609 --> 00:35:35,670
at all and I was able to go along and

935
00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:37,619
get along and be a real celebrity you

936
00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:39,060
know and have everything that Big

937
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:40,830
Brother get hand me I haven't got enough

938
00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:45,810
seniority within the lie this is what

939
00:35:48,650 --> 00:35:47,160
we're dealing with and that's why that

940
00:35:50,450 --> 00:35:48,660
answers as I said if people think about

941
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:50,460
this tool answer a lot of things one

942
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:52,140
thing announcer's is why so many people

943
00:35:57,710 --> 00:35:54,630
in so many parts of the world deny the

944
00:35:58,849 --> 00:35:57,720
conspiracy and fall in line you see

945
00:36:01,849 --> 00:35:58,859
that's why there's so many treacherous

946
00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:01,859
deceptive people all over the world in

947
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:03,150
the state of delusion so that when

948
00:36:05,770 --> 00:36:04,410
somebody like me starts to speak to go

949
00:36:07,790 --> 00:36:05,780
Michael you're crazy

950
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:07,800
look at her look look at all the same

951
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:09,670
people with our uniform

952
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:11,440
walking in lockstep what are you telling

953
00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:13,510
us that we're crazy you see that's why

954
00:36:16,789 --> 00:36:14,980
it's so ubiquitous throughout the world

955
00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:16,799
because it's an inner psychological

956
00:36:20,010 --> 00:36:18,520
contract that people have with

957
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:20,020
themselves and so you have to free

958
00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:22,210
yourself first of all from that web of

959
00:36:25,770 --> 00:36:24,280
lies you have to you have to ask

960
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:25,780
yourself not that I've been sold alive

961
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:31,450
but why have I bought a lie yeah I mean

962
00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:33,040
I find that all the time the further the

963
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:34,750
more I talk about this type of material

964
00:36:41,609 --> 00:36:37,750
be it even even the control side of it

965
00:36:43,370 --> 00:36:41,619
or even the even the nephilim side of it

966
00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:43,380
even the Annunaki side of all that

967
00:36:48,329 --> 00:36:46,270
ancient stuff or be it Atlantis or UFOs

968
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:48,339
or anything I'm constantly seeing myself

969
00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:51,280
marginalized by people I've known for 15

970
00:36:56,010 --> 00:36:54,430
years that just they they don't have an

971
00:36:58,020 --> 00:36:56,020
interest and I'm like I just can't I

972
00:37:00,750 --> 00:36:58,030
can't see how there's no they don't have

973
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:00,760
an interest it's kind of it's it's it's

974
00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:03,010
like they'd rather continue to play the

975
00:37:06,450 --> 00:37:04,990
game and get try to get ahead in it like

976
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:06,460
you said then admit they're playing a

977
00:37:09,150 --> 00:37:07,119
game at all

978
00:37:11,579 --> 00:37:09,160
and yeah but if you but if you brought

979
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:11,589
your your your balls to do a juggling

980
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:13,030
act in front of them you'd have tons of

981
00:37:18,299 --> 00:37:15,190
mates exactly exactly

982
00:37:20,579 --> 00:37:18,309
how do we get back to finding ourself

983
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:20,589
but if you as you said by never asking

984
00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:22,450
anybody else how to do it and by fully

985
00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:25,750
by disconnecting that chain you know

986
00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:27,160
first of all just noticing simply

987
00:37:29,819 --> 00:37:28,630
without judgment because the more if you

988
00:37:31,770 --> 00:37:29,829
judge yourself and you're doing the same

989
00:37:33,809 --> 00:37:31,780
self sadism and beating yourself up just

990
00:37:35,579 --> 00:37:33,819
observe it like any genealogist observes

991
00:37:37,849 --> 00:37:35,589
whatever he observes you know this it's

992
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:37,859
basically a sort of a rational

993
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,690
observation of the self and how we

994
00:37:44,460 --> 00:37:42,640
disempower ourselves my work is entirely

995
00:37:46,859 --> 00:37:44,470
based on that it's a reconstructive

996
00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:46,869
process or otherwise described it in

997
00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:49,319
other ways they're not Apple Phatak

998
00:37:54,930 --> 00:37:52,150
learning in which you simply deconstruct

999
00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:54,940
and try to break down the kind of

1000
00:37:58,650 --> 00:37:56,380
barriers that stand in the way of

1001
00:38:00,720 --> 00:37:58,660
yourself food ultimately all thinking is

1002
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:00,730
destructive I know people have a very

1003
00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:01,990
difficult time understanding this but

1004
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,950
thinking is deconstructed the rational

1005
00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:07,599
critical apparatus is to break down

1006
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:09,790
illusion to see through lies scientists

1007
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:11,290
do it every day detectives do it every

1008
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:12,430
day we do it every day

1009
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:14,650
progress is all about looking at how to

1010
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:16,210
do a thing better which means throwing

1011
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:18,190
out all redundant ways of doing things

1012
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:19,930
that's what psychoanalysis psychology

1013
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:21,570
philosophy is all about

1014
00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:23,370
and one of those threads is the simple

1015
00:38:28,670 --> 00:38:26,190
natural response that we have to seek

1016
00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:28,680
guidance from the misguided there's many

1017
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:29,550
reasons why we do it

1018
00:38:35,570 --> 00:38:32,640
but it needs to stop and we have an

1019
00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:35,580
entire world full of gurus and teachers

1020
00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:38,220
and pseudo teachers and mis leaders and

1021
00:38:43,130 --> 00:38:41,430
whatever else who because they have a

1022
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:43,140
little modicum of knowledge or insight

1023
00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:44,730
you know technical or other they then

1024
00:38:48,410 --> 00:38:46,500
set themselves up as gods this was

1025
00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:48,420
pointed or even by Socrates you know 300

1026
00:38:52,070 --> 00:38:50,670
years BC but this is what people do and

1027
00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:52,080
then they set themselves up as

1028
00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:53,460
authorities and then try to dominate

1029
00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:55,470
everybody else they don't awaken your

1030
00:38:58,340 --> 00:38:57,150
own natural intelligence that's

1031
00:39:00,290 --> 00:38:58,350
that threatens the hell out of them they

1032
00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:00,300
don't want that so we have all these

1033
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:01,950
petty dictatorships starting from the

1034
00:39:05,420 --> 00:39:04,890
home starting from the family level on

1035
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:05,430
ona

1036
00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:07,290
and we have to watch that tendency on

1037
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:08,820
ourselves and we have to realize that

1038
00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:10,320
when it comes specifically to your

1039
00:39:14,540 --> 00:39:11,940
question how do we return to Salford

1040
00:39:16,850 --> 00:39:14,550
there is no eh-2-zed anywhere there may

1041
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:16,860
be some signposts that other teachers

1042
00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:18,330
and philosophers who've done lots of

1043
00:39:20,780 --> 00:39:19,560
thinking through the centuries and we

1044
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:20,790
definitely should be up to speed on a

1045
00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:22,350
lot of their theories of course because

1046
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,750
we don't have one of the other paradoxes

1047
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:26,400
here is that the normal human life isn't

1048
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,010
long enough to even come to grips with

1049
00:39:33,220 --> 00:39:31,200
some of this information that

1050
00:39:36,020 --> 00:39:33,230
unfortunately is just a built-in problem

1051
00:39:38,030 --> 00:39:36,030
one of the things that assists us is the

1052
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:38,040
fact that we have you know many teachers

1053
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:40,890
many philosophers and great men who have

1054
00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:42,510
done a lot of this thinking for us and

1055
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:45,030
I've sort of percolated down a lot of

1056
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:46,770
the key answers and we should be up to

1057
00:39:51,830 --> 00:39:48,060
speed with what they're talking about

1058
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:51,840
but only a signposts we still have to

1059
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:53,730
walk the map we can't just get in line

1060
00:39:57,170 --> 00:39:55,530
behind those guys they knew what they

1061
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:57,180
knew for themselves their philosophies

1062
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:58,320
was an outcome of their particular

1063
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:00,240
psychology as well doesn't mean that it

1064
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:02,460
is going to fit everything that you know

1065
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:06,000
each other individual understands so you

1066
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:08,010
have to have all these teachings

1067
00:40:10,940 --> 00:40:09,330
percolate down through your own

1068
00:40:12,830 --> 00:40:10,950
consciousness and that means work that

1069
00:40:15,620 --> 00:40:12,840
means hard work and that means cutting

1070
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,630
no corners but it doesn't seem like hard

1071
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:17,040
work if you're passionate about it

1072
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:19,170
that's what is really separates the

1073
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:20,400
sheep from the goats it's only a lot of

1074
00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:21,690
hard work if a person is still

1075
00:40:25,790 --> 00:40:23,100
distracted with other nonsense in the

1076
00:40:27,140 --> 00:40:25,800
sensational world and it hasn't got the

1077
00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:27,150
passion if the person has a passion

1078
00:40:30,410 --> 00:40:28,380
about it then it doesn't seem like hard

1079
00:40:33,590 --> 00:40:30,420
work at all to familiarize yourself with

1080
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:33,600
these concepts you know for instance

1081
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:35,250
just explaining why there's the

1082
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:38,610
body dualism or whatever might be or or

1083
00:40:42,290 --> 00:40:39,690
again starting with the symbolism

1084
00:40:43,970 --> 00:40:42,300
question or asking the big question is

1085
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:43,980
there a god you know and on so forth and

1086
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:44,370
so on

1087
00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:46,320
if a man is passionate about these kinds

1088
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:49,260
of questions then he will be guided but

1089
00:40:52,820 --> 00:40:50,850
he doesn't need any external physical

1090
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:52,830
guide necessarily those are just

1091
00:40:57,370 --> 00:40:54,690
signposts that he meets on the way as he

1092
00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:57,380
is doing the walking this is a you know

1093
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:02,160
the thing to bear in mind yeah I mean I

1094
00:41:05,390 --> 00:41:03,690
know you're familiar with Alan Watts but

1095
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:05,400
he basically taught me that Zen is just

1096
00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:07,050
trying to act without that thinking

1097
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,540
filter just act immediately without

1098
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,760
overthinking it and when it comes to the

1099
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:13,920
symbolism that is where I think I just

1100
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:16,650
drive myself crazy and like for example

1101
00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:20,160
I have a friend Kyle who swears by the

1102
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:23,190
symbology as well as like the 11:11

1103
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,310
phenomenon and for me it's just a hard

1104
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:29,040
thing to believe but and iyx actually

1105
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:30,000
have been talking to him about I

1106
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:32,160
personally experienced an overwhelmingly

1107
00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:34,140
amount of coincidences with the number

1108
00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:37,470
42 and I don't understand why or what it

1109
00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:39,630
could mean and I Drive myself crazy with

1110
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:42,390
interpreting some of the symbolism in

1111
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:45,330
life because people you know lectures

1112
00:41:50,570 --> 00:41:48,810
talk about the idea that your higher

1113
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:50,580
self is trying to talk to you or lead

1114
00:41:56,510 --> 00:41:52,650
you or something's trying to lead you

1115
00:41:58,940 --> 00:41:56,520
and I Drive myself crazy wondering about

1116
00:42:00,320 --> 00:41:58,950
the interpretation of symbols or is

1117
00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:00,330
there meaning in this or am I just

1118
00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:02,190
projecting up this meaning onto

1119
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:04,200
something and stuff like that like how

1120
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:08,370
can we hone in on what's meaningful well

1121
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:10,020
you we do it all the time but what we do

1122
00:42:13,220 --> 00:42:11,520
is like you just said in your sentence

1123
00:42:15,140 --> 00:42:13,230
you beat yourself up for doing it that

1124
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:15,150
natural flow of intelligence that is

1125
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:16,710
projecting and that's a good thing you

1126
00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:17,400
meant to do that

1127
00:42:21,350 --> 00:42:19,260
you meant it it's the all meaning when

1128
00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:21,360
you even you speak about meaning there

1129
00:42:24,890 --> 00:42:22,980
is no meaning external to you at all all

1130
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:24,900
there is is existing things that's where

1131
00:42:28,490 --> 00:42:26,310
you start the universe has a bunch of

1132
00:42:30,980 --> 00:42:28,500
things in it be it stars or trees or

1133
00:42:32,270 --> 00:42:30,990
table legs or you know God knows what or

1134
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:32,280
even to that and for that matter other

1135
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:34,050
people those are what are known as

1136
00:42:38,060 --> 00:42:35,730
objects of consciousness right and they

1137
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:38,070
just exist but they don't actually have

1138
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:40,170
any meaning this is the mistake that we

1139
00:42:45,310 --> 00:42:43,560
we have against we've flipped it over we

1140
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:45,320
have an inverse understanding

1141
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:48,110
meaning comes only from within so the

1142
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:49,610
person who is able to give meaning to

1143
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:52,010
life from within himself he's living

1144
00:42:55,690 --> 00:42:53,930
he's what's known as actualized he's an

1145
00:42:57,310 --> 00:42:55,700
actual person he actually has it not

1146
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:57,320
only existence which has given see we

1147
00:42:59,380 --> 00:42:58,490
did we didn't create our own minds or

1148
00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:59,390
our bodies and we didn't create the

1149
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:01,760
universe so in philosophy for instance

1150
00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:02,930
they ask what can you be certain of

1151
00:43:06,310 --> 00:43:04,160
whether you can be certain the one thing

1152
00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:06,320
you didn't create yourself and you

1153
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:07,640
didn't create the universe around you

1154
00:43:11,110 --> 00:43:09,290
that's certain period so start with that

1155
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:11,120
and if you didn't if you didn't create

1156
00:43:17,050 --> 00:43:13,970
those things then you sit and worrying

1157
00:43:18,820 --> 00:43:17,060
about what existed before God existed

1158
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:18,830
and what how the universe came in before

1159
00:43:22,210 --> 00:43:20,000
the Big Bang and what might have been

1160
00:43:23,860 --> 00:43:22,220
before time is kind of in a way really

1161
00:43:24,730 --> 00:43:23,870
meaningless from an existential point of

1162
00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:24,740
view because you weren't there you

1163
00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:26,300
didn't create it and then your one life

1164
00:43:29,470 --> 00:43:27,590
you probably could never work it out and

1165
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:29,480
even if you did work it out say

1166
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:30,800
sometimes it's actually cracked this

1167
00:43:34,660 --> 00:43:33,200
which they haven't what it really

1168
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:34,670
changed the person's existential

1169
00:43:39,580 --> 00:43:37,310
existence the answer is no wooden next

1170
00:43:41,170 --> 00:43:39,590
thing is you didn't create life on this

1171
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:41,180
planet let's take it done from the

1172
00:43:44,530 --> 00:43:42,770
universal right not to this just this

1173
00:43:47,170 --> 00:43:44,540
planet life on this planet what is it 15

1174
00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:47,180
million years old or whatever it is I

1175
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:50,120
can't remember exactly but we weren't

1176
00:43:53,470 --> 00:43:51,410
there at the beginning a time when they

1177
00:43:56,260 --> 00:43:53,480
say that human life or animal life or

1178
00:43:57,580 --> 00:43:56,270
intelligent life began right so we

1179
00:43:59,920 --> 00:43:57,590
weren't there at that origin at that

1180
00:44:01,960 --> 00:43:59,930
point of origin either so a lot of

1181
00:44:03,250 --> 00:44:01,970
worrying about that period of time and

1182
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:03,260
what existed before it and how it

1183
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:04,640
happened the Nara is really again

1184
00:44:09,580 --> 00:44:07,970
useless meaningless information from a

1185
00:44:12,130 --> 00:44:09,590
psychological an existential point of

1186
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:12,140
view the only beginning the only origin

1187
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:15,050
the only miracle that we were privy to

1188
00:44:18,910 --> 00:44:16,490
is the fact that we ourselves

1189
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:18,920
individually were born and that by being

1190
00:44:21,970 --> 00:44:20,330
born we we grew a thing called

1191
00:44:23,380 --> 00:44:21,980
consciousness we're able to think about

1192
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:23,390
ourselves we're able to think about

1193
00:44:29,230 --> 00:44:25,450
thought and we're able to have this

1194
00:44:31,450 --> 00:44:29,240
incredible facility that origin we are

1195
00:44:35,770 --> 00:44:31,460
in charge all that that origin we can

1196
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:35,780
study with this interior speculative you

1197
00:44:40,930 --> 00:44:38,480
know ability this rational ability so

1198
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:40,940
that is where then many philosophers

1199
00:44:44,650 --> 00:44:43,130
have said the main focus should be these

1200
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:44,660
other injury these other things are of

1201
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:46,010
interest of course naturally but they're

1202
00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:47,290
not they're not really of interest

1203
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:49,400
psychologically or existentially your

1204
00:44:53,650 --> 00:44:51,710
existence the fact that you came in with

1205
00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:53,660
consciousness and it's what you do with

1206
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:55,310
that consciousness run how you oriented

1207
00:44:58,410 --> 00:44:57,290
so thinking of itself is again

1208
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:58,420
meaningless it's what your

1209
00:45:02,609 --> 00:44:59,680
being apart and it's how your thinking

1210
00:45:04,020 --> 00:45:02,619
is focused this is where the real

1211
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:04,030
answers will come from in other words

1212
00:45:06,750 --> 00:45:05,530
what I'm saying again is a meaning comes

1213
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:06,760
from within you give your life meaning

1214
00:45:11,309 --> 00:45:08,950
but what we do is we shut off that

1215
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:11,319
organic intelligence or is shut off for

1216
00:45:15,059 --> 00:45:12,490
us again by the parents and

1217
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:15,069
what-have-you and then we we start to

1218
00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:16,960
conform or we start to let other people

1219
00:45:22,349 --> 00:45:19,030
lead or if we want other people to

1220
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:22,359
inspire we're really exhausted when it

1221
00:45:27,299 --> 00:45:25,119
comes to turning the inner senses on

1222
00:45:29,370 --> 00:45:27,309
because again that will again lead us

1223
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:29,380
onto our own path you know that that

1224
00:45:32,940 --> 00:45:30,609
breaks us away from the collective

1225
00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:32,950
that's why we're scared of it we're so

1226
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:34,990
traumatized that we lean and what we

1227
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:36,970
lean on is the mob that we lean on the

1228
00:45:42,510 --> 00:45:38,770
collective many people have even said

1229
00:45:44,579 --> 00:45:42,520
that our so called ego is just not the

1230
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:44,589
eye at all that that's just a construct

1231
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:47,440
of the collective like the inner the

1232
00:45:52,260 --> 00:45:50,049
inner sense that you're talking about do

1233
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:52,270
you believe that you can achieve like

1234
00:45:56,609 --> 00:45:54,609
turning that back on through who Lucian

1235
00:45:59,059 --> 00:45:56,619
who loose energetic drugs such as like

1236
00:46:01,470 --> 00:45:59,069
ayahuasca or psilocybin mushrooms I

1237
00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:01,480
can't say because again I wouldn't that

1238
00:46:08,210 --> 00:46:03,670
would my statement would be presumptive

1239
00:46:11,099 --> 00:46:08,220
on every individuals particular journey

1240
00:46:13,319 --> 00:46:11,109
exactly exactly so I mean goodness me a

1241
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:13,329
man in the dungeon could do it when that

1242
00:46:17,339 --> 00:46:15,130
when that when that will opens up within

1243
00:46:19,170 --> 00:46:17,349
himself so absolutely I can't sit there

1244
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:19,180
and make a pronouncement one way or the

1245
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:21,730
other because remember you're talking

1246
00:46:27,059 --> 00:46:23,530
about the individual psychology if a

1247
00:46:29,099 --> 00:46:27,069
person with the toxic psyche and who's

1248
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:29,109
basically self murdered himself goes and

1249
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:30,490
does one of these experiences he may

1250
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:32,170
blow his brains out he may blow his mind

1251
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:34,000
completely whereas another person with a

1252
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:35,680
more healthy attitude all of this breaks

1253
00:46:39,089 --> 00:46:37,599
down to attitude may go and have one of

1254
00:46:40,650 --> 00:46:39,099
the most powerful experiences of life

1255
00:46:42,809 --> 00:46:40,660
isn't it true that even David Icke

1256
00:46:44,849 --> 00:46:42,819
started his a sort of journey or if not

1257
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:44,859
started this journey went on to have

1258
00:46:48,450 --> 00:46:47,049
these powerful experiences so again you

1259
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:48,460
know it's really impossible for another

1260
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:51,010
person to dictate or to speak about it

1261
00:46:57,150 --> 00:46:54,960
you know one way or the other

1262
00:46:59,609 --> 00:46:57,160
what do you think life would look like

1263
00:47:01,380 --> 00:46:59,619
today what do you think our lives would

1264
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:01,390
look like today if we hadn't been lied

1265
00:47:07,049 --> 00:47:03,040
to her manipulated and this control

1266
00:47:08,410 --> 00:47:07,059
hierarchy hadn't you know hijacked the

1267
00:47:11,590 --> 00:47:08,420
way we all live

1268
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:11,600
um I thought a lot about that of course

1269
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:14,930
and I think that also the philosopher

1270
00:47:18,970 --> 00:47:16,610
Nietzsche and there's certain degree

1271
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:18,980
Heidegger were very much looking into

1272
00:47:22,810 --> 00:47:21,200
that question and of course they came up

1273
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,820
with it the one thing would have to be

1274
00:47:26,530 --> 00:47:24,800
removed would be this incredible

1275
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:26,540
dependence on the mob on the collective

1276
00:47:29,470 --> 00:47:28,130
they were both critiques critics of the

1277
00:47:31,330 --> 00:47:29,480
collective consciousness because they

1278
00:47:33,370 --> 00:47:31,340
said that the collective energy and

1279
00:47:34,750 --> 00:47:33,380
they're not really the only ones Sigmund

1280
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:34,760
Freud and Jung and others have said this

1281
00:47:39,220 --> 00:47:37,490
in their own language but fraud Abbey

1282
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:39,230
was a Nietzsche and Heidegger with a

1283
00:47:44,290 --> 00:47:42,770
deepest I think and who sort of put

1284
00:47:47,170 --> 00:47:44,300
language to this and they basically were

1285
00:47:48,730 --> 00:47:47,180
trying to say that look your ego or that

1286
00:47:51,730 --> 00:47:48,740
part of you that they call I they didn't

1287
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:51,740
use psychological language so in fact

1288
00:47:54,340 --> 00:47:52,880
Heidegger didn't even use the word

1289
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:54,350
consciousness at all because he didn't

1290
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:56,000
believe we were thinking at all he said

1291
00:48:00,700 --> 00:47:58,010
we still have to learn other thing but

1292
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:00,710
to in very brief summary I think what

1293
00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:01,910
they were saying is that because our

1294
00:48:05,770 --> 00:48:02,960
sense of selfhood

1295
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:05,780
is an inauthentic salford it's a pseudo

1296
00:48:11,250 --> 00:48:08,210
self made up of just the approval rating

1297
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:11,260
you know this collective collectivism

1298
00:48:14,590 --> 00:48:13,010
for instance let me give you an example

1299
00:48:17,530 --> 00:48:14,600
I can't remember who it was but there

1300
00:48:20,170 --> 00:48:17,540
was a famous scientist or some sort of

1301
00:48:22,990 --> 00:48:20,180
psychologist who basically said that a

1302
00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:23,000
child even learns that it is a separate

1303
00:48:27,970 --> 00:48:25,880
entity from the simple act of it being

1304
00:48:29,710 --> 00:48:27,980
looked at by a parent or by other people

1305
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:29,720
when the child grows up it has no sense

1306
00:48:34,180 --> 00:48:31,010
in the early stages that it's an

1307
00:48:35,470 --> 00:48:34,190
individual it learns about that it is a

1308
00:48:38,650 --> 00:48:35,480
self because it sees other people

1309
00:48:40,450 --> 00:48:38,660
looking at it and then it learns to look

1310
00:48:41,770 --> 00:48:40,460
at other people in the same way you see

1311
00:48:44,830 --> 00:48:41,780
by being looked at just the act of

1312
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:44,840
perception tells the channel slowly I am

1313
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:46,850
something that I must be being looked at

1314
00:48:51,730 --> 00:48:49,760
and then that develops slowly onto self

1315
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:51,740
looking like this subjective idea of

1316
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,330
being able to observe yourself so in

1317
00:48:57,250 --> 00:48:55,520
other words the child wouldn't even have

1318
00:48:59,320 --> 00:48:57,260
a subjective self wouldn't even have a

1319
00:49:01,180 --> 00:48:59,330
clue of its own existence without other

1320
00:49:03,070 --> 00:49:01,190
people the point being that you there's

1321
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:03,080
a healthy need for collectivity all

1322
00:49:05,710 --> 00:49:04,130
right it's in the accused and

1323
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:05,720
expectations in exchange of body

1324
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,510
language and words and eye contact then

1325
00:49:14,140 --> 00:49:10,640
even gives any one of us the feeling of

1326
00:49:15,580 --> 00:49:14,150
self food so what they're trying to say

1327
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:15,590
is if you didn't have other people you

1328
00:49:18,940 --> 00:49:17,450
wouldn't even have a self and we

1329
00:49:21,790 --> 00:49:18,950
couldn't even possibly conceive what

1330
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:21,800
that would be like but then of course

1331
00:49:24,610 --> 00:49:22,250
you can go

1332
00:49:26,260 --> 00:49:24,620
too far because the roots of your sense

1333
00:49:29,830 --> 00:49:26,270
of self is other people in their

1334
00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:29,840
existence it becomes very easy as we've

1335
00:49:35,260 --> 00:49:32,660
already been dialoguing in this in your

1336
00:49:37,330 --> 00:49:35,270
program here it's only one step away

1337
00:49:38,890 --> 00:49:37,340
before that becomes extremely chronic in

1338
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:38,900
it is only because since people are the

1339
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:40,730
basis of our sense of self my god is

1340
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:42,110
only the next step then to becoming

1341
00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:44,720
completely absorbed in the collective

1342
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:45,950
for a sense of self you may become even

1343
00:49:51,210 --> 00:49:49,250
addicted to it so then trying to go cold

1344
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:51,220
turkey and come off of that is a very

1345
00:49:56,770 --> 00:49:53,810
elaborate and difficult process and if

1346
00:49:58,180 --> 00:49:56,780
anybody wanted to do it or try it you

1347
00:49:59,530 --> 00:49:58,190
know again it's not for me to say what

1348
00:50:01,120 --> 00:49:59,540
would happen some people may be so

1349
00:50:02,530 --> 00:50:01,130
traumatized by that say even if you

1350
00:50:04,270 --> 00:50:02,540
tried some physical thing like removing

1351
00:50:06,820 --> 00:50:04,280
yourself from people for two weeks or

1352
00:50:07,990 --> 00:50:06,830
whatever or even for extended periods of

1353
00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:08,000
time history's full of people who

1354
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:09,350
actually became Hermits and all and

1355
00:50:14,140 --> 00:50:11,570
completely distance themselves you know

1356
00:50:16,510 --> 00:50:14,150
again I can't make any pro or negative

1357
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:16,520
statement you know about whether that's

1358
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:18,110
a good thing or what it depends on the

1359
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:19,370
personality of the individual you know

1360
00:50:23,470 --> 00:50:21,770
so if but say something that this just

1361
00:50:25,090 --> 00:50:23,480
purely experimentally you know maybe

1362
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:25,100
they'd have a complete breakdown and

1363
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:26,810
there'll be no self there at all you'll

1364
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:27,890
be just you know crawling around the

1365
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:29,450
floor like some sort of animal but then

1366
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:30,710
of course even animals have a sense of

1367
00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:37,490
self they obviously do and so moving

1368
00:50:42,070 --> 00:50:39,350
moving on to say that then okay say you

1369
00:50:44,890 --> 00:50:42,080
don't and you try to do it gradually to

1370
00:50:46,780 --> 00:50:44,900
decipher in say you stay within society

1371
00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:46,790
and try to gradually thus determine what

1372
00:50:52,570 --> 00:50:50,150
is unique about yourself and what makes

1373
00:50:54,550 --> 00:50:52,580
you the same as everybody else way back

1374
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,560
in my early first talks even I address

1375
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:56,480
this we know so much about what makes us

1376
00:50:59,650 --> 00:50:58,490
the same as everybody else I've said we

1377
00:51:01,870 --> 00:50:59,660
have very little understanding of what

1378
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,880
makes us you know unique for instance

1379
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Michael how many and how many and how

1380
00:51:05,830 --> 00:51:04,370
many guys are called Michael in the

1381
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:05,840
world you don't mean ridiculous you know

1382
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:07,730
so it's like what what is unique about

1383
00:51:11,710 --> 00:51:09,410
us the clothes we were that names we

1384
00:51:13,780 --> 00:51:11,720
have the food we the ideas in our head

1385
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:13,790
the language we use we were speaking

1386
00:51:17,860 --> 00:51:15,770
English or whatever so you know

1387
00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:17,870
everything is shared what actually then

1388
00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:20,630
makes us unique and is there anything at

1389
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:22,790
all I mean you're talking about the top

1390
00:51:26,410 --> 00:51:24,890
philosophers in the world at the top of

1391
00:51:27,730 --> 00:51:26,420
the totem pole haven't got an answer to

1392
00:51:29,860 --> 00:51:27,740
that they're still working on that to

1393
00:51:31,810 --> 00:51:29,870
find out is there anything that is

1394
00:51:34,210 --> 00:51:31,820
actually really truly unique about a

1395
00:51:36,090 --> 00:51:34,220
person now Heidegger and Nietzsche were

1396
00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:36,100
of course

1397
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:39,230
implying that yeah there was you know

1398
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:41,090
there is something that is a authentic

1399
00:51:46,420 --> 00:51:43,610
unique about an individual and there are

1400
00:51:50,140 --> 00:51:46,430
systems are there to try and show us how

1401
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:50,150
to attain that you know and I guess that

1402
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:52,130
would also be somewhat what a lot of

1403
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:53,510
other famous teachers are trying to

1404
00:51:58,330 --> 00:51:55,970
allude to and then you have to know

1405
00:51:59,380 --> 00:51:58,340
about those systems and come to come to

1406
00:52:01,780 --> 00:51:59,390
your own conclusion about which one of

1407
00:52:03,310 --> 00:52:01,790
these systems that they're talking about

1408
00:52:05,530 --> 00:52:03,320
which one of these means to the net is

1409
00:52:08,650 --> 00:52:05,540
is a means to an end that becomes a

1410
00:52:10,690 --> 00:52:08,660
fascinating area of study so my personal

1411
00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:10,700
belief is it absolutely I don't think we

1412
00:52:15,220 --> 00:52:13,820
were born by accident I think that all

1413
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:15,230
of these things that keep us away from a

1414
00:52:20,050 --> 00:52:18,530
sense of self food can be removed but

1415
00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:20,060
it's not so much that they can be

1416
00:52:23,380 --> 00:52:21,710
removed it's the way that they're

1417
00:52:25,390 --> 00:52:23,390
removed if you remove it in the wrong

1418
00:52:27,340 --> 00:52:25,400
just like you know remember that the Six

1419
00:52:29,290 --> 00:52:27,350
Million Dollar Man you know Steve Austin

1420
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:29,300
yeah he's kind of dismantle this bomb

1421
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:30,650
and he does it the wrong way the whole

1422
00:52:34,060 --> 00:52:32,210
lot the whole country's going to blow up

1423
00:52:35,470 --> 00:52:34,070
so it's more like it's like that it's

1424
00:52:36,850 --> 00:52:35,480
like the sweat is pouring down your face

1425
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:36,860
because it's not about that can you

1426
00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:39,830
remove it it's at if you jiggle or you

1427
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:41,390
do it wrong the wrong way it's going to

1428
00:52:45,850 --> 00:52:42,410
blow up in your face

1429
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:45,860
so the philosophical process you know I

1430
00:52:49,390 --> 00:52:47,570
mean okay you have one guy with it like

1431
00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:49,400
Alexander coming with a wrecking sword

1432
00:52:51,790 --> 00:52:50,660
to cut through the Gordian knot you know

1433
00:52:53,020 --> 00:52:51,800
maybe that's not quite the right way

1434
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:53,030
that's a way for him but it may not be

1435
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:54,650
the same way for everybody else to

1436
00:52:58,090 --> 00:52:56,510
approach consciousness the wrong way can

1437
00:52:59,410 --> 00:52:58,100
make you insane somebody would argue

1438
00:53:01,990 --> 00:52:59,420
that that's what happened to / Nietzsche

1439
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:02,000
you know and many other people that you

1440
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:03,680
could name the lunatic asylums are

1441
00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:04,880
filled of people who've actually seen

1442
00:53:08,860 --> 00:53:06,350
the light they know a hell of a lot but

1443
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:08,870
they couldn't handle what they saw so

1444
00:53:13,390 --> 00:53:11,510
again it's the mean is the way in which

1445
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:13,400
a lot of things are done is far more

1446
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:15,110
important than the what is being done

1447
00:53:23,470 --> 00:53:20,090
and that again you can't really train

1448
00:53:24,850 --> 00:53:23,480
somebody for you you can't you can show

1449
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:24,860
us err you can show personal use like I

1450
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:27,170
say a bow and arrow right but you can't

1451
00:53:30,310 --> 00:53:28,730
change their perception I mean if

1452
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:30,320
they're half blind there's nothing you

1453
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:31,910
can do even if they if you show them

1454
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:33,290
exactly how to put the string on the

1455
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:35,090
ball and put the arrow right and pull it

1456
00:53:39,850 --> 00:53:37,910
back right and even stand right but if

1457
00:53:41,470 --> 00:53:39,860
they're blind and their eyesight is

1458
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:41,480
hopeless you know there's no chance of

1459
00:53:45,970 --> 00:53:43,610
them getting to hit that target so you

1460
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:45,980
can show somebody a certain amount fifty

1461
00:53:49,380 --> 00:53:47,570
percent but they have to bring their own

1462
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:49,390
unique skills and perception

1463
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:52,010
acuity and brilliance to it and then you

1464
00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:53,240
have the miracle of life

1465
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:55,910
so again pointing our forever like you

1466
00:53:58,330 --> 00:53:57,050
said Alan Watts you know there's been a

1467
00:54:00,040 --> 00:53:58,340
whole history of great teachers they've

1468
00:54:03,580 --> 00:54:00,050
shown us what to do you know

1469
00:54:05,110 --> 00:54:03,590
Krishnamurti and you name it or like I

1470
00:54:05,860 --> 00:54:05,120
said these niches and Heidegger's and

1471
00:54:07,810 --> 00:54:05,870
all you know but it doesn't necessarily

1472
00:54:09,820 --> 00:54:07,820
mean that everyone's gonna learn go and

1473
00:54:11,050 --> 00:54:09,830
do it it's it's you they have to say hey

1474
00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:11,060
you know this is what I've discovered

1475
00:54:14,170 --> 00:54:12,710
and then you gotta say yeah well let me

1476
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:14,180
try and do the experiment as well and

1477
00:54:19,060 --> 00:54:17,450
see what comes with us so I do believe

1478
00:54:20,740 --> 00:54:19,070
that these dependencies are bad I do

1479
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:20,750
believe that there's a people have a

1480
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:22,640
pathology that can be healed and can be

1481
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:25,010
removed but again it's all about how you

1482
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:27,710
do it what's your intention as to why

1483
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:30,170
you're doing it as you know a lot of

1484
00:54:32,650 --> 00:54:31,490
people will want enlightenment for the

1485
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:32,660
wrong reasons they may want it to have

1486
00:54:35,260 --> 00:54:34,310
more power over people or whatever or

1487
00:54:37,150 --> 00:54:35,270
they may want to sit at the right hand

1488
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:37,160
of God or whatever it might be so the

1489
00:54:42,610 --> 00:54:40,570
reasons the motives you know that may be

1490
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:42,620
the thing that they want might look good

1491
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:45,200
on paper but do we really know the

1492
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:47,510
reasons why they want to do it you know

1493
00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:49,850
what's the motive behind it could be

1494
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:52,910
really really negative we're all

1495
00:54:57,130 --> 00:54:55,520
motivated motivated by something yeah

1496
00:54:59,890 --> 00:54:57,140
there's good motivations and bad

1497
00:55:01,000 --> 00:54:59,900
motivations you know what I mean I've

1498
00:55:02,290 --> 00:55:01,010
always had a problem with you know why

1499
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:02,300
would you want to be a guru why would

1500
00:55:05,770 --> 00:55:03,920
you want to be a Sai Baba even if you

1501
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:05,780
have seen the light you may tell me that

1502
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:06,980
you've gone and seen the light and then

1503
00:55:09,970 --> 00:55:08,330
you want you're happy the fact with a

1504
00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:09,980
bunch of completely clueless Auto

1505
00:55:12,670 --> 00:55:11,630
hypnotize millions sit in front of you

1506
00:55:14,260 --> 00:55:12,680
on their knees looking up do you like

1507
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:14,270
God I've got a problem with that right

1508
00:55:16,570 --> 00:55:15,440
away but then I see a lot of other

1509
00:55:18,310 --> 00:55:16,580
people don't they think that's wonderful

1510
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:18,320
that he's there making all these

1511
00:55:21,370 --> 00:55:19,850
miracles and enlightening everyone you

1512
00:55:23,140 --> 00:55:21,380
know so it's again there's there's so

1513
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:23,150
many schools of thought I can look at

1514
00:55:26,050 --> 00:55:24,290
somebody and think that's a charlatan

1515
00:55:27,340 --> 00:55:26,060
that's a person if you know even if he

1516
00:55:28,990 --> 00:55:27,350
has the light why would it be using it

1517
00:55:30,430 --> 00:55:29,000
this way but another person might come

1518
00:55:32,410 --> 00:55:30,440
along go no it's a wonderful thing you

1519
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:32,420
know all these repressed Americans and

1520
00:55:35,710 --> 00:55:34,160
all they can sit there and you know this

1521
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:35,720
is wonderful this is really gonna help

1522
00:55:38,860 --> 00:55:37,610
them become enlightened you know you get

1523
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:38,870
more enlightenment out of watching Star

1524
00:55:42,250 --> 00:55:40,640
Trek than sitting at some Indian gurus

1525
00:55:45,220 --> 00:55:42,260
feet I don't know so it's all perception

1526
00:55:46,810 --> 00:55:45,230
it's all an individual's take on it some

1527
00:55:49,290 --> 00:55:46,820
people want to escape themselves so much

1528
00:55:52,330 --> 00:55:49,300
that they'll seek for the first you know

1529
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:52,340
guy waving an incense stick and dressed

1530
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:53,930
an orange to sell their soul to you know

1531
00:55:57,580 --> 00:55:55,430
there's millions of ways to escape a

1532
00:55:58,030 --> 00:55:57,590
million working in a job from 9:00 to

1533
00:56:00,540 --> 00:55:58,040
5:00

1534
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:00,550
looking for that success you know

1535
00:56:05,020 --> 00:56:02,690
tyranny you may not put a gun

1536
00:56:06,670 --> 00:56:05,030
somebody's head in dressin military you

1537
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:06,680
know gear there's a bunch of metals on

1538
00:56:10,839 --> 00:56:07,910
your chest you may want to be the next

1539
00:56:12,099 --> 00:56:10,849
you know Nobel Prize winner or something

1540
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,109
like that that's another will that's

1541
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:14,240
another power trip you see so it can be

1542
00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:17,839
done under the pretext of doing charity

1543
00:56:21,550 --> 00:56:20,329
or humanity for people in psychology and

1544
00:56:23,410 --> 00:56:21,560
philosophy always looking to motives

1545
00:56:25,059 --> 00:56:23,420
you're not so fooled by the awkward show

1546
00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:25,069
of things which so many people in our

1547
00:56:30,430 --> 00:56:28,310
world today are completely bamboozled by

1548
00:56:31,420 --> 00:56:30,440
you know the art world show they got to

1549
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:31,430
think about the motives the

1550
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:33,770
psychological motives so the optimistic

1551
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:35,450
aspect of this does connect with the

1552
00:56:40,030 --> 00:56:37,490
trauma here that you were alluding to

1553
00:56:42,250 --> 00:56:40,040
earlier because if you look at the

1554
00:56:43,540 --> 00:56:42,260
chronology of that trauma and again I'm

1555
00:56:45,010 --> 00:56:43,550
saying you don't even have to believe it

1556
00:56:46,540 --> 00:56:45,020
had anything to do with a Nephilim even

1557
00:56:48,839 --> 00:56:46,550
if you just accept it was bad it was a

1558
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:48,849
physical or whatever planetary whatever

1559
00:56:54,220 --> 00:56:52,250
it's such a short time ago that the

1560
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:54,230
optimistic attitude when you study this

1561
00:56:58,359 --> 00:56:56,510
matrix of power and control is that look

1562
00:57:00,190 --> 00:56:58,369
we may be actually healing from it and

1563
00:57:01,630 --> 00:57:00,200
you just can't force that healing and

1564
00:57:04,089 --> 00:57:01,640
any more than you couldn't tell a guy

1565
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:04,099
who's into a car wreck you know and

1566
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:06,079
broken a couple of legs you know to get

1567
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:08,510
up walk right away so this trauma that

1568
00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:10,480
happened happened to all the human race

1569
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:13,670
we're in a healing cycle and so it's

1570
00:57:17,170 --> 00:57:15,440
kind of really not too clever or

1571
00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:17,180
rational to be utterly pessimistic

1572
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:19,910
because these things do take time and

1573
00:57:25,089 --> 00:57:22,640
they and what I mean is centuries so

1574
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:25,099
even though we may still see so much

1575
00:57:28,450 --> 00:57:26,810
darkness and so much tyranny and so much

1576
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:28,460
control and we lament it and it's good

1577
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:29,510
to lament it you're not meant to be

1578
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:32,480
happy about corruption at the same time

1579
00:57:39,370 --> 00:57:35,680
it may be that the ego is gradually

1580
00:57:42,430 --> 00:57:39,380
imperceptibly healing in its own unique

1581
00:57:44,980 --> 00:57:42,440
way and that what is true and what is

1582
00:57:46,990 --> 00:57:44,990
rich and what is real inside us never

1583
00:57:48,250 --> 00:57:47,000
dies can never perish this was what the

1584
00:57:50,740 --> 00:57:48,260
core of Nietzsche's teachings that no

1585
00:57:52,990 --> 00:57:50,750
matter how dark things get he referred

1586
00:57:54,970 --> 00:57:53,000
to it as the will to power that will can

1587
00:57:57,460 --> 00:57:54,980
never ever die it's eternal

1588
00:58:00,579 --> 00:57:57,470
so no matter how black things get and

1589
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:00,589
how oppressive things get there will be

1590
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:04,400
no crushing of that light so even if

1591
00:58:08,770 --> 00:58:05,569
you're not a religious man you know

1592
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:08,780
you're just coming out of a more human

1593
00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:11,839
sort of humanistic school even in that

1594
00:58:16,370 --> 00:58:13,910
humanistic school they claimed that the

1595
00:58:18,589 --> 00:58:16,380
spirit of man can't be crushed down for

1596
00:58:19,819 --> 00:58:18,599
and it will come back and always will

1597
00:58:22,579 --> 00:58:19,829
there's other there's always a

1598
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:22,589
compensate Tory action in life and one

1599
00:58:25,130 --> 00:58:23,970
might say that their awakening that

1600
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:25,140
you're seeing today amongst ordinary

1601
00:58:29,870 --> 00:58:27,839
people is part of that awakening the

1602
00:58:32,359 --> 00:58:29,880
people that lie does not persist forever

1603
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:32,369
and that people will find some

1604
00:58:38,930 --> 00:58:37,170
instinctual or some very deeply a seed

1605
00:58:40,999 --> 00:58:38,940
of wholeness within them that they will

1606
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:41,009
want to actualize you know one can argue

1607
00:58:45,019 --> 00:58:42,690
that that is also the case right I've

1608
00:58:46,999 --> 00:58:45,029
heard many people refer to this time as

1609
00:58:50,509 --> 00:58:47,009
the age of enlightenment age of

1610
00:58:53,509 --> 00:58:50,519
awakening yep an astrological terms

1611
00:58:55,819 --> 00:58:53,519
which well I get I really have a hard

1612
00:58:58,730 --> 00:58:55,829
time with the astrology part and really

1613
00:59:01,370 --> 00:58:58,740
seeing how that could have affect us but

1614
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:01,380
it is funny to see that the internet

1615
00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:03,690
came directly at the time that's

1616
00:59:06,650 --> 00:59:05,220
considered a time of enlightenment and

1617
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:06,660
if I were to write that thousands of

1618
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:09,599
years ago on paper the internet would be

1619
00:59:14,749 --> 00:59:12,480
the perfect incarnation of that coming

1620
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:14,759
to life so I do see a similarity there

1621
00:59:19,249 --> 00:59:16,710
in the coincidence well are you familiar

1622
00:59:20,839 --> 00:59:19,259
with my theories on the inner zodiac the

1623
00:59:22,999 --> 00:59:20,849
energy I don't think I've heard the

1624
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:23,009
inner Zodiac theories yeah yeah because

1625
00:59:26,839 --> 00:59:24,690
I agree with you that if you're looking

1626
00:59:28,519 --> 00:59:26,849
at astrology from the wrong end of the

1627
00:59:30,380 --> 00:59:28,529
binoculars it doesn't make a bit of

1628
00:59:32,839 --> 00:59:30,390
sense at all and you're into something

1629
00:59:34,670 --> 00:59:32,849
completely false the origins of the

1630
00:59:36,819 --> 00:59:34,680
zodiac are internal the so called

1631
00:59:38,930 --> 00:59:36,829
external zodiac what people are studying

1632
00:59:40,279 --> 00:59:38,940
is nothing more than a projection of

1633
00:59:42,499 --> 00:59:40,289
consciousness and I have that

1634
00:59:45,230 --> 00:59:42,509
information on my Tara scopes website

1635
00:59:47,749 --> 00:59:45,240
news articles and interviews and in a

1636
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:47,759
video tour that I made they will explain

1637
00:59:51,019 --> 00:59:49,529
origins of the zodiac connecting the

1638
00:59:53,359 --> 00:59:51,029
consciousness in other words the very

1639
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:53,369
same neck at the very same architecture

1640
00:59:56,779 --> 00:59:55,650
of your consciousness the very ability

1641
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:56,789
that you even have to know the

1642
01:00:00,319 --> 00:59:58,170
difference between one two three four

1643
01:00:02,740 --> 01:00:00,329
you know even the numbers one to ten how

1644
01:00:05,089 --> 01:00:02,750
you can tell that they have an order

1645
01:00:07,130 --> 01:00:05,099
that they run in this order or that the

1646
01:00:09,259 --> 01:00:07,140
one is different from seven that same

1647
01:00:11,180 --> 01:00:09,269
ability to learn language you know Noam

1648
01:00:15,140 --> 01:00:11,190
Chomsky speaking about the incredible

1649
01:00:16,910 --> 01:00:15,150
innate architecture of linguistics that

1650
01:00:18,140 --> 01:00:16,920
a child has that enables that child

1651
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:18,150
again go on and learn any language

1652
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:19,920
whether it's any foreign language or

1653
01:00:23,859 --> 01:00:22,410
English or Italian how is it the

1654
01:00:26,210 --> 01:00:23,869
children can do this

1655
01:00:28,849 --> 01:00:26,220
when these linguistic skills are

1656
01:00:29,660 --> 01:00:28,859
unbelievably complex no computer could

1657
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:29,670
do it

1658
01:00:32,660 --> 01:00:31,170
he talks about that there are these

1659
01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:32,670
innate inbuilt

1660
01:00:37,549 --> 01:00:35,940
categories of linguistics in the mind so

1661
01:00:41,210 --> 01:00:37,559
in exactly the same way as he's

1662
01:00:43,099 --> 01:00:41,220
expressed that those that architecture

1663
01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:43,109
that mental architecture so the

1664
01:00:48,319 --> 01:00:44,520
principles of the zodiac the

1665
01:00:49,789 --> 01:00:48,329
mathematical underlying architecture you

1666
01:00:50,510 --> 01:00:49,799
know the seven the 12 the three and the

1667
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:50,520
four and so on

1668
01:00:54,970 --> 01:00:53,609
that is in our psyche and it's only

1669
01:00:57,230 --> 01:00:54,980
because of the incredible

1670
01:00:59,120 --> 01:00:57,240
misrepresentation or metrology by these

1671
01:01:01,940 --> 01:00:59,130
so-called astrologers who haven't the

1672
01:01:05,059 --> 01:01:01,950
faintest idea about the origins of their

1673
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:05,069
own subject matter and it's also because

1674
01:01:13,180 --> 01:01:10,799
of the egregious you know back lashing

1675
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:13,190
or whatever you want to call it

1676
01:01:20,329 --> 01:01:16,650
criticism from this sort of materialist

1677
01:01:21,559 --> 01:01:20,339
atheist crony you know crowd who want to

1678
01:01:22,970 --> 01:01:21,569
deny that there's any spiritual

1679
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:22,980
dimension to humankind

1680
01:01:27,740 --> 01:01:25,440
you know astrology as the pure Sciences

1681
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:27,750
has really been has suffered a lot but

1682
01:01:31,309 --> 01:01:29,609
when you understand that it is based on

1683
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:31,319
a projection of human consciousness then

1684
01:01:35,059 --> 01:01:32,910
you'll start to understand more about

1685
01:01:36,620 --> 01:01:35,069
what goes on the zodiac whether you're

1686
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:36,630
talking about the great ages you know

1687
01:01:41,079 --> 01:01:38,450
that the more processional ages oh

1688
01:01:43,309 --> 01:01:41,089
you're talking about the yearly zodiac

1689
01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:43,319
these are just simply projections of

1690
01:01:46,339 --> 01:01:44,609
human consciousness so I always

1691
01:01:48,170 --> 01:01:46,349
encourage my audience to you know go and

1692
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:48,180
study up on that so they get more clear

1693
01:01:54,349 --> 01:01:52,049
on when I even myself make you know slip

1694
01:01:59,359 --> 01:01:54,359
and talk about arañas or Pluto or Venus

1695
01:02:00,799 --> 01:01:59,369
or Sun I always try to you know caveat

1696
01:02:02,299 --> 01:02:00,809
that by saying that look I don't

1697
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:02,309
actually mean some planet in space

1698
01:02:07,130 --> 01:02:04,079
necessarily I'm speaking about an

1699
01:02:12,049 --> 01:02:07,140
archetypal force yeah like a more of a

1700
01:02:14,990 --> 01:02:12,059
spiritual sort of a a psycho physical

1701
01:02:17,030 --> 01:02:15,000
force it's just that it's just a means

1702
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,040
of communication like music is the

1703
01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:19,200
zodiac works on very similar principles

1704
01:02:23,539 --> 01:02:21,119
as the way that musical notes

1705
01:02:24,980 --> 01:02:23,549
communicate to us you know I mean

1706
01:02:26,539 --> 01:02:24,990
there's a reason why people like to

1707
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:26,549
listen to stairway to heaven are a piece

1708
01:02:31,130 --> 01:02:28,290
of ship and you know that stuff is

1709
01:02:35,180 --> 01:02:31,140
speaking to us we'll the zodiac the

1710
01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:35,190
zodiacal archetypes any symbolism in

1711
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:36,809
fact whether it's alchemical

1712
01:02:41,780 --> 01:02:40,290
mathematical color for instance the mist

1713
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:41,790
of the miracle of color we could have

1714
01:02:45,859 --> 01:02:43,200
five shows on just that

1715
01:02:47,450 --> 01:02:45,869
you know so we're being spoken to all

1716
01:02:49,310 --> 01:02:47,460
the time remember you're speaking

1717
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:49,320
earlier about you and the number 42 and

1718
01:02:53,660 --> 01:02:51,450
and how you were playing with that and

1719
01:02:55,970 --> 01:02:53,670
wondering what the significance is you

1720
01:02:58,069 --> 01:02:55,980
see that number is not the number that's

1721
01:03:01,579 --> 01:02:58,079
the problem really there it's what that

1722
01:03:03,530 --> 01:03:01,589
number symbolizes in many ways where the

1723
01:03:05,150 --> 01:03:03,540
factors that make it up the relationship

1724
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:05,160
between this number four the number two

1725
01:03:08,329 --> 01:03:06,690
because there's really two numbers there

1726
01:03:10,339 --> 01:03:08,339
right you said 42 but that actually

1727
01:03:11,780 --> 01:03:10,349
applies to numbers they're four and two

1728
01:03:13,250 --> 01:03:11,790
and a house numbers got a lot of

1729
01:03:15,170 --> 01:03:13,260
different spiritual esoteric

1730
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:15,180
relationships but they cut it short what

1731
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:18,000
I mean is that numbers be at one to ten

1732
01:03:21,730 --> 01:03:20,609
they are themselves meaningless like I

1733
01:03:23,810 --> 01:03:21,740
said those are just things that exist

1734
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:23,820
what what exists behind them is

1735
01:03:29,620 --> 01:03:27,810
frequency energy and those are

1736
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:29,630
archetypes so the numbers are really

1737
01:03:34,730 --> 01:03:32,490
messengers of a certain vibration

1738
01:03:36,859 --> 01:03:34,740
they're conveying a certain vibration

1739
01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:36,869
for instance the number four basically

1740
01:03:43,940 --> 01:03:39,089
conveys the vibration of order structure

1741
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:43,950
and practicality you know so each number

1742
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:46,010
represents a particular frequency and

1743
01:03:50,780 --> 01:03:49,200
that can be universalized like a normal

1744
01:03:52,849 --> 01:03:50,790
most numerology we'd say those numbers

1745
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:52,859
go for everybody and that's fine and

1746
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:56,250
dandy but ultimately each individual has

1747
01:04:00,500 --> 01:03:58,410
a personal relationship with those

1748
01:04:02,829 --> 01:04:00,510
numbers as well when one would get into

1749
01:04:04,940 --> 01:04:02,839
it and study it and come to their own

1750
01:04:06,349 --> 01:04:04,950
relationship you know some people for

1751
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:06,359
instance give you one example of the

1752
01:04:13,099 --> 01:04:09,890
number for mandalas when Carl Jung

1753
01:04:15,230 --> 01:04:13,109
famously had these clients who went

1754
01:04:16,370 --> 01:04:15,240
through no it wasn't even really major

1755
01:04:18,140 --> 01:04:16,380
breakthroughs it was almost like just

1756
01:04:20,450 --> 01:04:18,150
the first stage of the breakthroughs

1757
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:20,460
that they had there's something led them

1758
01:04:24,829 --> 01:04:22,410
to express themselves by painting

1759
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,839
mandalas as you know mandalas are made

1760
01:04:33,260 --> 01:04:27,119
of four right a lot of them are the

1761
01:04:34,700 --> 01:04:33,270
square symbolism and and so what is that

1762
01:04:35,870 --> 01:04:34,710
well neat you want to come along and

1763
01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:35,880
said well I'll tell you what that is

1764
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:40,160
that is a man's a static response

1765
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,170
because man is primarily an aesthetic

1766
01:04:48,170 --> 01:04:45,359
creature long before he uses his reason

1767
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:48,180
long before he even becomes aware that

1768
01:04:53,359 --> 01:04:49,680
there's a mathematical order to the

1769
01:04:54,790 --> 01:04:53,369
universe long before any of that any of

1770
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:54,800
that left brain stuff

1771
01:04:59,330 --> 01:04:56,610
every man including

1772
01:05:02,480 --> 01:04:59,340
every child is turned on initially by

1773
01:05:03,890 --> 01:05:02,490
the simple beauty of what surrounded and

1774
01:05:05,330 --> 01:05:03,900
fact Nietzsche took this to the extent

1775
01:05:06,590 --> 01:05:05,340
anyone who wants to know Nietzsche has

1776
01:05:08,780 --> 01:05:06,600
to understand that the aesthetic

1777
01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:08,790
appreciation and aesthetic creations

1778
01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:10,260
like music and art actually going and

1779
01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:10,710
doing it

1780
01:05:14,180 --> 01:05:12,480
writing portrait this was the center of

1781
01:05:16,130 --> 01:05:14,190
his philosophy and many others have

1782
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:16,140
swore by this as well that they claim

1783
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:17,370
that the whole meaning of life is is

1784
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:18,690
based on this aesthetic appreciation

1785
01:05:22,900 --> 01:05:20,370
without even getting into any of that

1786
01:05:24,890 --> 01:05:22,910
just the very fact that nature was so

1787
01:05:26,930 --> 01:05:24,900
intoxicating Lee beautiful to look at

1788
01:05:29,570 --> 01:05:26,940
even thunderstorms or lightning or the

1789
01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:29,580
sunrise or whatever it might be the the

1790
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:31,200
miracle of the flow of river you know

1791
01:05:36,290 --> 01:05:34,170
River in whatever this made man wonder

1792
01:05:40,780 --> 01:05:36,300
Wow how did this all come into being and

1793
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:40,790
so they saw that man's original

1794
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:42,960
state of consciousness was just as

1795
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:46,170
completely spontaneous response to

1796
01:05:51,950 --> 01:05:49,130
beauty right and we still have it today

1797
01:05:53,060 --> 01:05:51,960
and in fact I mean we know this because

1798
01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:53,070
you can look down through all of history

1799
01:05:56,930 --> 01:05:54,900
and all the people that we admire

1800
01:05:59,660 --> 01:05:56,940
including the leonardo da vinci's were

1801
01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,670
artists before they were geometry store

1802
01:06:03,110 --> 01:06:01,440
scientists they were the greatest minds

1803
01:06:04,940 --> 01:06:03,120
in the world were often scientifically

1804
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:04,950
inclined but they were also extremely

1805
01:06:07,970 --> 01:06:06,450
artistic I mean half the building's we

1806
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:07,980
live and have two state buildings of the

1807
01:06:12,410 --> 01:06:10,410
world based on that Romanesque design

1808
01:06:13,790 --> 01:06:12,420
for instance we're designed not just by

1809
01:06:15,890 --> 01:06:13,800
people who have brilliant mathematical

1810
01:06:17,930 --> 01:06:15,900
skills and geometric skills but we're

1811
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:17,940
also incredibly inspired artistically

1812
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:20,970
like Vitruvius and Paco Apache Olie and

1813
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:22,530
all of these other guys you see same

1814
01:06:26,420 --> 01:06:24,960
thing in music so yeah music is

1815
01:06:27,620 --> 01:06:26,430
mathematical to the extent that you got

1816
01:06:29,060 --> 01:06:27,630
to know the notes and you got to know

1817
01:06:32,420 --> 01:06:29,070
that you know writing the writing aspect

1818
01:06:33,890 --> 01:06:32,430
of music but long before that and even

1819
01:06:35,660 --> 01:06:33,900
at the end of it it's more about the

1820
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:35,670
beautiful aspect of it you see so half

1821
01:06:39,470 --> 01:06:37,110
the stuff that we do in the world or

1822
01:06:42,830 --> 01:06:39,480
more of it is motivated by this

1823
01:06:44,810 --> 01:06:42,840
aesthetic sense and therefore that's

1824
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:44,820
important as well to to bear in mind

1825
01:06:48,170 --> 01:06:46,290
that we have this innately within

1826
01:06:50,690 --> 01:06:48,180
ourselves and when you're responding

1827
01:06:53,450 --> 01:06:50,700
them to those numbers those numbers just

1828
01:06:55,850 --> 01:06:53,460
represent in sciama

1829
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:55,860
geometrical form they may represent some

1830
01:07:01,700 --> 01:06:58,650
sort of geometry or they may represent

1831
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:01,710
some sort of Archimedean geometry you

1832
01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:02,970
know like the Platonic solids and

1833
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:04,470
what-have-you a lot of people when they

1834
01:07:07,340 --> 01:07:05,760
see numbers like three three three and

1835
01:07:10,550 --> 01:07:07,350
seven seven seven and eight eight eight

1836
01:07:11,810 --> 01:07:10,560
and two to two there's a lot of triad

1837
01:07:13,610 --> 01:07:11,820
purrs appear for people I think you

1838
01:07:16,070 --> 01:07:13,620
mentioned even yourself everyone 11 11

1839
01:07:18,740 --> 01:07:16,080
yeah was that you that mentioned that

1840
01:07:21,500 --> 01:07:18,750
yeah it is it's a friend of mine he's

1841
01:07:24,620 --> 01:07:21,510
convinced that the coincidence of eleven

1842
01:07:27,290 --> 01:07:24,630
eleven seen it and not only in his he

1843
01:07:29,450 --> 01:07:27,300
sees like a double L in his last name

1844
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:29,460
the last name of his girlfriend and he

1845
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:31,110
sees symbolism in that being eleven

1846
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:34,530
eleven understood dresses and times the

1847
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:35,970
things happen when he's thinking of

1848
01:07:40,670 --> 01:07:38,160
certain things and mile markers on

1849
01:07:42,890 --> 01:07:40,680
driving on the highway well this is a

1850
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:42,900
language that when you're coming to it

1851
01:07:47,330 --> 01:07:44,610
from this left brain point of view it

1852
01:07:48,830 --> 01:07:47,340
seems very strange and a lot of people

1853
01:07:50,900 --> 01:07:48,840
can think you're kind of crazy but

1854
01:07:52,700 --> 01:07:50,910
what's actually happening is that slowly

1855
01:07:54,650 --> 01:07:52,710
the natural intelligence we've been

1856
01:07:57,050 --> 01:07:54,660
alluding to before or if you want to say

1857
01:07:58,610 --> 01:07:57,060
right brain or this aesthetic a sense or

1858
01:08:01,700 --> 01:07:58,620
whatever it might be that's awakening

1859
01:08:04,550 --> 01:08:01,710
and we don't we don't we stop it we get

1860
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:04,560
freaked out by it and when we stop doing

1861
01:08:09,380 --> 01:08:07,770
it and therefore like right now on the

1862
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:09,390
clock as I'm looking where I'm in Europe

1863
01:08:16,250 --> 01:08:13,920
it says 314 that's PI so now how

1864
01:08:17,770 --> 01:08:16,260
significant is PI it's so significant we

1865
01:08:20,090 --> 01:08:17,780
just happen not to be talking about

1866
01:08:22,790 --> 01:08:20,100
sacred geometry and numerology and the

1867
01:08:24,410 --> 01:08:22,800
mystical aspects of number and I'm

1868
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,420
looking at the clock and it's 314

1869
01:08:28,970 --> 01:08:27,120
exactly that's the lab break both the

1870
01:08:32,210 --> 01:08:28,980
left brain goes complete coincidence has

1871
01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:32,220
no meaning but who's to say to me it has

1872
01:08:34,849 --> 01:08:33,660
no meaning I decide whether it has

1873
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:34,859
meaning or not you see that as we said

1874
01:08:37,790 --> 01:08:35,850
earlier connect to that thing about

1875
01:08:40,220 --> 01:08:37,800
bringing meaning out from yourself so

1876
01:08:41,900 --> 01:08:40,230
this not organic flow yeah so these

1877
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:41,910
numbers now that not say your friend

1878
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:44,880
went and started to discover about the

1879
01:08:49,579 --> 01:08:46,890
platonic solids the dodecahedron they

1880
01:08:51,740 --> 01:08:49,589
update the cuboctahedron the tetrahedron

1881
01:08:53,420 --> 01:08:51,750
right which happened to be based on the

1882
01:08:54,410 --> 01:08:53,430
cellular structure of the body you know

1883
01:08:56,480 --> 01:08:54,420
and there's so many other authors have

1884
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:56,490
gone into this far more deeply than I've

1885
01:08:59,090 --> 01:08:57,810
done people like John below much as a

1886
01:09:00,890 --> 01:08:59,100
deck and even gregg braden to certain

1887
01:09:02,750 --> 01:09:00,900
extent there's many books are on this

1888
01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:02,760
subject you will start to find that the

1889
01:09:08,059 --> 01:09:06,510
dimensions of these these are platonic

1890
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:08,069
solids there's five platonic solids and

1891
01:09:12,500 --> 01:09:10,650
eighteen Archimedean solids and those by

1892
01:09:14,450 --> 01:09:12,510
the way are in the universe though

1893
01:09:15,980 --> 01:09:14,460
that's those those just embody the very

1894
01:09:17,750 --> 01:09:15,990
essence of the architecture of the

1895
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:17,760
universe right you will start to

1896
01:09:20,690 --> 01:09:19,290
discover that these very numbers that

1897
01:09:22,939 --> 01:09:20,700
you keep noticing or some part of your

1898
01:09:26,059 --> 01:09:22,949
brain is attracted to turn

1899
01:09:28,009 --> 01:09:26,069
to be the numbers that are the numbers

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01:09:30,769 --> 01:09:28,019
of these vertices and the numbers of the

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01:09:34,609 --> 01:09:30,779
the sides and the dimensions of these

1902
01:09:36,259 --> 01:09:34,619
particular objects these solids or even

1903
01:09:38,629 --> 01:09:36,269
the body human itself

1904
01:09:40,579 --> 01:09:38,639
the human body's dimensions itself from

1905
01:09:42,529 --> 01:09:40,589
a Pythagorean Fibonacci point of view

1906
01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:42,539
and you have the Fibonacci series you've

1907
01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:45,089
got many other spiritual esoteric series

1908
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:47,249
that are inherent in the natural order

1909
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:48,719
there's the ones that you know about and

1910
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:49,679
there's the ones they don't want you to

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01:09:54,350 --> 01:09:51,449
know about so there's only these

1912
01:09:55,790 --> 01:09:54,360
spiritual numerology that's encoded into

1913
01:09:58,009 --> 01:09:55,800
the Sphinx that's encoded into the

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01:10:00,620 --> 01:09:58,019
pyramid that's encoded into the human

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01:10:05,029 --> 01:10:00,630
body and so forth and so on there's so

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01:10:06,949 --> 01:10:05,039
many you know books I could refer to

1917
01:10:08,419 --> 01:10:06,959
people who are if they're fascinated by

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01:10:11,870 --> 01:10:08,429
this I've gone into it a great length in

1919
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:11,880
my own work and so these dimensions are

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01:10:17,569 --> 01:10:15,690
those living archetypes but the thing

1921
01:10:20,049 --> 01:10:17,579
that those numbers are are the bridge

1922
01:10:21,919 --> 01:10:20,059
between you write your microcosmic

1923
01:10:24,169 --> 01:10:21,929
understanding your micro cosmic

1924
01:10:26,419 --> 01:10:24,179
intelligence and the external apparently

1925
01:10:28,669 --> 01:10:26,429
external macrocosmic world you're

1926
01:10:30,169 --> 01:10:28,679
related to that the world is made out of

1927
01:10:35,629 --> 01:10:30,179
the same stuff as your consciousness is

1928
01:10:38,540 --> 01:10:35,639
made out of it's completely psycho

1929
01:10:42,469 --> 01:10:38,550
physical psychosomatic and therefore

1930
01:10:44,779 --> 01:10:42,479
those numbers in one sense are the

1931
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:44,789
language of the exchange of the energy

1932
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:46,800
between your psyche and the physical

1933
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:50,489
world and we have moved only from a left

1934
01:10:53,719 --> 01:10:52,320
brain point of view with only numbers we

1935
01:10:56,089 --> 01:10:53,729
care about are the numbers of you know

1936
01:10:58,430 --> 01:10:56,099
money and we've reduced it down to such

1937
01:11:01,040 --> 01:10:58,440
a boring banal level one two three four

1938
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:01,050
you know if they're dead things you know

1939
01:11:05,569 --> 01:11:03,449
it no longer has an esoteric or

1940
01:11:07,790 --> 01:11:05,579
spiritual component to it yet in ancient

1941
01:11:11,629 --> 01:11:07,800
days which we record in our minds around

1942
01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:11,639
our consciousness is the culmination of

1943
01:11:15,739 --> 01:11:14,070
millennia of experience well that

1944
01:11:17,449 --> 01:11:15,749
ancient ancestral voice you know it

1945
01:11:18,890 --> 01:11:17,459
knows what the number two or the number

1946
01:11:23,299 --> 01:11:18,900
three or the number 22

1947
01:11:24,949 --> 01:11:23,309
number 44 whatever represents and we've

1948
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:24,959
shut that off unfortunately so it's very

1949
01:11:28,669 --> 01:11:26,249
very important in spiritual development

1950
01:11:31,130 --> 01:11:28,679
to reopen it again right how do you how

1951
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:31,140
you suggest we

1952
01:11:37,700 --> 01:11:34,710
do that really how do we study in sacred

1953
01:11:39,740 --> 01:11:37,710
geometry studying numerology you know my

1954
01:11:41,390 --> 01:11:39,750
mystery school the time gnosis we have

1955
01:11:42,860 --> 01:11:41,400
people working with these numbers on a

1956
01:11:44,150 --> 01:11:42,870
very practical level so that that

1957
01:11:45,710 --> 01:11:44,160
hopefully it will be the starting drawn

1958
01:11:47,150 --> 01:11:45,720
with empty then go on to use

1959
01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:47,160
double-digit numbers and so on and so

1960
01:11:50,570 --> 01:11:49,320
forth I'm getting into the Tarot all of

1961
01:11:53,660 --> 01:11:50,580
the tarot cards have numbers and they're

1962
01:11:55,010 --> 01:11:53,670
deeply esoteric meanings all the

1963
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:55,020
divination arts that's extremely

1964
01:11:58,100 --> 01:11:56,370
important to get involved with that if

1965
01:12:00,020 --> 01:11:58,110
you're interested in what you're asking

1966
01:12:02,570 --> 01:12:00,030
sacred geometry is part of it as well

1967
01:12:03,890 --> 01:12:02,580
and I would say even studying these

1968
01:12:06,430 --> 01:12:03,900
solids like I spoke about the

1969
01:12:10,130 --> 01:12:06,440
geometrical solids the Archimedean 18

1970
01:12:11,900 --> 01:12:10,140
Archimedean forms and the five platonic

1971
01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:11,910
solids and their dimensions and their

1972
01:12:14,660 --> 01:12:13,260
vertices and the relationships between

1973
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:14,670
each other like how many planes do they

1974
01:12:18,590 --> 01:12:17,370
have how many vertices do they have this

1975
01:12:20,660 --> 01:12:18,600
is what fascinated the ancients who

1976
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:20,670
built a pyramid half the ziggurats and

1977
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:23,010
pyramids are based on very precise

1978
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:25,890
geometry of six one eight that's the Phi

1979
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:27,450
ratio and what have you many other

1980
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:29,730
countries I could mention you see the

1981
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:31,770
number 66 appears a lot the Bible is

1982
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:35,280
loaded with it and the speed of the

1983
01:12:38,930 --> 01:12:36,690
pyramid do you think the pyramids were

1984
01:12:40,430 --> 01:12:38,940
built by does your show research show

1985
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:40,440
the view found that the pyramids are

1986
01:12:49,550 --> 01:12:46,110
built by human ancients alone um I don't

1987
01:12:51,170 --> 01:12:49,560
know I think that I'm not even sure

1988
01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,180
they're dated right and I can tell you

1989
01:12:55,670 --> 01:12:53,520
that that's a Graham Hancock yeah this

1990
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:55,680
heat pumps they're way older yeah I've

1991
01:12:59,000 --> 01:12:57,330
always maintained that I think they were

1992
01:13:03,230 --> 01:12:59,010
built way back in the processional age

1993
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:03,240
of ergo if not even before that but who

1994
01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:04,530
as to who built them I thinking

1995
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:07,320
enlighten humans you know this Atlantean

1996
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:09,330
knowledge because remember it's not only

1997
01:13:13,010 --> 01:13:11,250
in Egypt that you have these precisely

1998
01:13:15,260 --> 01:13:13,020
designed everywhere they're everywhere

1999
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:15,270
including in Ireland as well what did

2000
01:13:19,130 --> 01:13:17,760
you say summer even under the ocean yes

2001
01:13:21,170 --> 01:13:19,140
the ones that Hancock has photographed

2002
01:13:23,390 --> 01:13:21,180
exactly so there's no doubt in my mind

2003
01:13:25,250 --> 01:13:23,400
that there was a gigantic school of

2004
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:25,260
knowledge that's why people I refer to

2005
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:26,010
as the RER

2006
01:13:31,310 --> 01:13:29,040
the Druids order these were a worldwide

2007
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:31,320
organization and they're known in Egypt

2008
01:13:35,660 --> 01:13:33,210
as the shanshu or disciples of

2009
01:13:37,670 --> 01:13:35,670
Horus and they're the ones who actually

2010
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:37,680
built the pyramid but the knowledge that

2011
01:13:42,830 --> 01:13:39,810
they brought with them was Atlantean it

2012
01:13:44,340 --> 01:13:42,840
was from the ancient days when lots more

2013
01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:44,350
things were known about the

2014
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:46,710
on earth than we can ever imagine and

2015
01:13:52,650 --> 01:13:50,110
the also the consciousness of people was

2016
01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:52,660
pre trauma so we're talking about people

2017
01:13:57,870 --> 01:13:53,710
who had a very high level of

2018
01:13:59,910 --> 01:13:57,880
consciousness here and knew how to move

2019
01:14:02,850 --> 01:13:59,920
these blocks you know now there's even

2020
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:02,860
some in the last 10 to 15 years there's

2021
01:14:06,510 --> 01:14:04,210
been some individuals have even learned

2022
01:14:07,650 --> 01:14:06,520
to move these stones but 20 years ago

2023
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:07,660
there wasn't even a crane that could

2024
01:14:11,130 --> 01:14:09,520
have lifted them now they've made some

2025
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:11,140
small effort to even show that they

2026
01:14:14,430 --> 01:14:13,120
could have been physically maneuvered

2027
01:14:16,230 --> 01:14:14,440
you know so we're slowly slowly making

2028
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:16,240
progress to realize that yeah it

2029
01:14:20,340 --> 01:14:18,730
probably could have been done just with

2030
01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:20,350
what we would describe as human beings

2031
01:14:25,890 --> 01:14:21,910
you know without necessarily believing

2032
01:14:27,780 --> 01:14:25,900
any supernatural or offworld presence

2033
01:14:29,820 --> 01:14:27,790
but again I'm open to all things because

2034
01:14:31,650 --> 01:14:29,830
those sarcophagi and I don't just mean

2035
01:14:35,460 --> 01:14:31,660
the ones in the pyramid but the ones at

2036
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:35,470
saqqara and the South it I mean the top

2037
01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:37,090
engineers in the world with the latest

2038
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:39,490
equipment the latest measuring equipment

2039
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:41,410
cannot work are to this day how are the

2040
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:43,690
angles of the inside of these boxes you

2041
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:46,570
know like the King's copper yeah and

2042
01:14:51,540 --> 01:14:49,330
these other big big giant what they call

2043
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:51,550
sarcophagi it's just nobody can work out

2044
01:14:54,420 --> 01:14:53,050
how those angles are so precise they

2045
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:54,430
don't even have the tools to do it today

2046
01:15:00,120 --> 01:14:56,530
let alone to cut them and get them so

2047
01:15:04,380 --> 01:15:00,130
precise and then the utter travesty when

2048
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:04,390
they come to dated they pick up a piece

2049
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:07,690
of broken pottery from beside it date

2050
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:09,760
that pottery right it could be some you

2051
01:15:14,670 --> 01:15:11,530
know his pot that some guy put there

2052
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:14,680
some old shepherd date that and then say

2053
01:15:18,090 --> 01:15:16,000
oh well now we know how all the

2054
01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:18,100
sarcophagus was I mean that my passes

2055
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:19,750
for academic you know sort of like you

2056
01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:21,370
know science or whatever yeah this is

2057
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:22,510
what they haven't you on the plate for

2058
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:27,760
hundreds of years now as far as the this

2059
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:31,450
this knowledge of the planet that is

2060
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:34,450
obviously on a mass scale lost right now

2061
01:15:41,010 --> 01:15:39,490
do you think that the elite still hold

2062
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:41,020
this now is true because it seems like

2063
01:15:46,110 --> 01:15:42,250
throughout history there's been a

2064
01:15:47,850 --> 01:15:46,120
pattern of conquering a group burning

2065
01:15:50,940 --> 01:15:47,860
all the records destroying everything

2066
01:15:52,350 --> 01:15:50,950
they have building a school well two

2067
01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:52,360
things about that is I don't believe the

2068
01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:53,830
records were destroyed all these

2069
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:55,150
libraries I believe were sequestered

2070
01:15:59,210 --> 01:15:56,640
first

2071
01:16:01,010 --> 01:15:59,220
the ancient libraries they say that

2072
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:01,020
Alexandria library was burned on like

2073
01:16:05,330 --> 01:16:02,810
you know about four times or something

2074
01:16:06,860 --> 01:16:05,340
but there's some very severe controversy

2075
01:16:09,470 --> 01:16:06,870
about the final burning when Caesar was

2076
01:16:11,090 --> 01:16:09,480
there and in my eyes it was the

2077
01:16:12,890 --> 01:16:11,100
knowledge was taken just in exactly the

2078
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:12,900
same way that history tells us that the

2079
01:16:16,250 --> 01:16:14,400
Temple of Jerusalem so-called was

2080
01:16:18,350 --> 01:16:16,260
plundered by Titus and all the gear was

2081
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:18,360
taken over to Rome so there's no

2082
01:16:24,290 --> 01:16:22,410
question about it that he's a dragon

2083
01:16:25,940 --> 01:16:24,300
Court whether they be the Roman version

2084
01:16:28,700 --> 01:16:25,950
of Greek version or whatever these

2085
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:28,710
people were plunderers they knew where

2086
01:16:31,610 --> 01:16:29,730
they were going they knew about the

2087
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:31,620
antiquity and they even knew about the

2088
01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:33,090
sacredness of the other stuff they were

2089
01:16:36,140 --> 01:16:35,100
getting their hands on so number one I

2090
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:36,150
don't believe that it was burned I

2091
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:38,370
believed it was sequestered and that

2092
01:16:41,780 --> 01:16:40,170
that has been they've had access to that

2093
01:16:43,070 --> 01:16:41,790
through their private libraries we all

2094
01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:43,080
know about the famous Vatican Library

2095
01:16:47,450 --> 01:16:45,120
but that's only one of many many many

2096
01:16:49,130 --> 01:16:47,460
private libraries all over the world

2097
01:16:51,410 --> 01:16:49,140
that nobody would have a chance to get

2098
01:16:54,850 --> 01:16:51,420
into not even on a very high level not

2099
01:16:56,990 --> 01:16:54,860
even if you were a very senior academic

2100
01:16:58,640 --> 01:16:57,000
there's libraries that they just simply

2101
01:17:01,010 --> 01:16:58,650
would not let you have access to unless

2102
01:17:02,510 --> 01:17:01,020
you an extremely high level Freemason or

2103
01:17:05,060 --> 01:17:02,520
you know member of the Illuminati or

2104
01:17:06,860 --> 01:17:05,070
what have you now and again something

2105
01:17:11,660 --> 01:17:06,870
leaks out here and there but ultimately

2106
01:17:13,660 --> 01:17:11,670
you know that'll only a little leak out

2107
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:13,670
is that yeah that these things exist

2108
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:15,120
what's in them

2109
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:16,770
never gets sort of revealed or what have

2110
01:17:22,220 --> 01:17:19,110
you that after thousands of like

2111
01:17:24,590 --> 01:17:22,230
thousands of years no ruling member of

2112
01:17:27,730 --> 01:17:24,600
the elite has ever just come forward

2113
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:27,740
with a smoking gun just out of guilt

2114
01:17:32,030 --> 01:17:30,030
because they've a lot to lose remember

2115
01:17:33,110 --> 01:17:32,040
it's a simple mafioso situation in which

2116
01:17:35,330 --> 01:17:33,120
first of all most of them are

2117
01:17:38,330 --> 01:17:35,340
ideologically completely in agreement

2118
01:17:39,650 --> 01:17:38,340
with what's taking place secondly

2119
01:17:41,090 --> 01:17:39,660
they've got a lot to lose because once

2120
01:17:42,290 --> 01:17:41,100
you go through their system and I mean

2121
01:17:44,540 --> 01:17:42,300
even it's just in a more sort of a

2122
01:17:46,820 --> 01:17:44,550
humdrum you know you went to their

2123
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:46,830
colleges you joined our fraternities you

2124
01:17:50,990 --> 01:17:49,770
sort of you did well and then you moved

2125
01:17:52,430 --> 01:17:51,000
on and they put you in a nice position

2126
01:17:54,590 --> 01:17:52,440
you were the head of this so you were

2127
01:17:56,420 --> 01:17:54,600
the head of that you know they gave you

2128
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:56,430
a bank to run they're a country to run

2129
01:18:00,170 --> 01:17:58,560
and all this kind of thing you know or a

2130
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:00,180
big shipping line or whatever you know

2131
01:18:05,150 --> 01:18:03,120
you don't really have you know the power

2132
01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:05,160
to sort of turn back I mean one thing

2133
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:06,450
you gotta understand about these guys is

2134
01:18:10,130 --> 01:18:08,880
they sacrifice a hell of a lot to take

2135
01:18:11,180 --> 01:18:10,140
that silver spoon

2136
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:11,190
I mean you know that has to be

2137
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:13,290
understood there's really no way out I

2138
01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:14,370
mean that there's a movie called

2139
01:18:16,970 --> 01:18:15,600
Brotherhood of the Bell that sort of

2140
01:18:18,770 --> 01:18:16,980
lays this on the line that shows you how

2141
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,780
difficult it is you know because they'll

2142
01:18:22,490 --> 01:18:20,640
ruin you and if they don't ruin you

2143
01:18:24,110 --> 01:18:22,500
first they'll ruin your brother his

2144
01:18:26,650 --> 01:18:24,120
business will suddenly go bankrupt for

2145
01:18:28,940 --> 01:18:26,660
some bizarre reason you know or whatever

2146
01:18:30,380 --> 01:18:28,950
and they will they will mess with people

2147
01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:30,390
around you to give you the warning and

2148
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:32,640
most of the highest level guys don't

2149
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:34,110
even need the warning because it's

2150
01:18:37,250 --> 01:18:35,730
already inbuilt into their brain that if

2151
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:37,260
you ever think that you're going to you

2152
01:18:41,540 --> 01:18:38,970
know bite the hand that feeds you here

2153
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:41,550
think again because they'll make you

2154
01:18:46,250 --> 01:18:43,440
very aware of the fact that others have

2155
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:46,260
tried it and lost so this minimizes it

2156
01:18:49,820 --> 01:18:48,690
doesn't rule it out completely and it

2157
01:18:51,530 --> 01:18:49,830
doesn't stop accidents from happening

2158
01:18:54,250 --> 01:18:51,540
for instance during perestroika you know

2159
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:54,260
lots of files were left just stupidly

2160
01:18:58,880 --> 01:18:56,400
big buildings full of in precious

2161
01:19:00,800 --> 01:18:58,890
precious files were left unguarded and

2162
01:19:02,510 --> 01:19:00,810
so independent journalists were able to

2163
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:02,520
go in and grab a lot of stuff same thing

2164
01:19:07,670 --> 01:19:04,170
happened in Franco's rush Franco's uh

2165
01:19:11,420 --> 01:19:07,680
during the civil war in the you know the

2166
01:19:15,020 --> 01:19:11,430
Nazi or the fascist leader Franco in

2167
01:19:16,910 --> 01:19:15,030
Spain an incident for instance like will

2168
01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:16,920
happen were the Allies came and bombed

2169
01:19:22,910 --> 01:19:20,910
the whole of Barcelona and they bombs

2170
01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:22,920
did strike the government buildings and

2171
01:19:26,690 --> 01:19:25,020
all the filing cabinets were like blown

2172
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:26,700
open right and all the soldiers and

2173
01:19:31,370 --> 01:19:27,930
everybody in the guards at scattered

2174
01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:31,380
leaving some very important journalists

2175
01:19:35,390 --> 01:19:33,510
to run in and basically grab and hide

2176
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:35,400
all those precious precious files and in

2177
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:36,690
spent their life translating it and

2178
01:19:41,870 --> 01:19:38,640
because of that we have authors that we

2179
01:19:44,660 --> 01:19:41,880
know now amazing things about you know

2180
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:44,670
the Jesuit connection to Franco or we

2181
01:19:48,530 --> 01:19:46,410
know something about the secret society

2182
01:19:49,970 --> 01:19:48,540
free Masonic connection that never would

2183
01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:49,980
have come out any other way you see

2184
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:51,780
so there's flutes that happen there was

2185
01:19:55,970 --> 01:19:53,850
the occasional whistle blowing Dorson

2186
01:19:59,120 --> 01:19:55,980
but yeah it doesn't happen often and

2187
01:20:02,780 --> 01:19:59,130
it's it's it happens enough I think to

2188
01:20:04,610 --> 01:20:02,790
for people like myself and Yuri Lena and

2189
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:04,620
other people to go and know gather that

2190
01:20:10,940 --> 01:20:07,170
data but certainly yes it's not as much

2191
01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:10,950
as you'd want no but come on but coming

2192
01:20:13,670 --> 01:20:12,450
back to your original question do they

2193
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:13,680
have the knowledge do they have

2194
01:20:16,250 --> 01:20:14,970
maintained that ancient knowledge the

2195
01:20:18,260 --> 01:20:16,260
answer is absolutely yes

2196
01:20:21,260 --> 01:20:18,270
we know this is the case because the ley

2197
01:20:23,660 --> 01:20:21,270
lines the architecture you only need to

2198
01:20:26,510 --> 01:20:23,670
go back to the rise of the Templar

2199
01:20:28,130 --> 01:20:26,520
in Britain a Templar school a long way

2200
01:20:30,050 --> 01:20:28,140
back right back to the 9th century 13th

2201
01:20:32,270 --> 01:20:30,060
century what-have-you but even if you

2202
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:32,280
just deal with the 11th century of the

2203
01:20:35,710 --> 01:20:34,170
original Templar families coming to

2204
01:20:38,540 --> 01:20:35,720
England during the Battle of Hastings

2205
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:38,550
the simple fact of their ability to

2206
01:20:46,540 --> 01:20:43,130
position their houses monasteries and

2207
01:20:53,690 --> 01:20:46,550
subsequently their churches and their

2208
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:53,700
state buildings long in key areas of the

2209
01:21:00,470 --> 01:20:56,490
geomantic grid is just could not be

2210
01:21:02,540 --> 01:21:00,480
coincidence that way yes exactly

2211
01:21:04,610 --> 01:21:02,550
same thing again over in America in that

2212
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:04,620
in that situation you find that just so

2213
01:21:07,700 --> 01:21:06,210
much precision and when you really get

2214
01:21:09,770 --> 01:21:07,710
into it and you find out how much they

2215
01:21:13,310 --> 01:21:09,780
observe the movement of certain planets

2216
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:13,320
individual planets particularly Jupiter

2217
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:15,120
but then stars like the movement of the

2218
01:21:19,790 --> 01:21:17,450
star Sirius for instance the meticulous

2219
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:19,800
observation of only this is obviously

2220
01:21:22,430 --> 01:21:21,330
not drunked up in five minutes I mean

2221
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:22,440
these things are very difficult and

2222
01:21:25,460 --> 01:21:24,090
remember you have to sequester it

2223
01:21:27,650 --> 01:21:25,470
because you can't even that ordinary

2224
01:21:28,850 --> 01:21:27,660
clever lay men know about it not all a

2225
01:21:30,350 --> 01:21:28,860
man they're stupid some other very

2226
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:30,360
intelligent but they're not in on the

2227
01:21:32,750 --> 01:21:31,770
game so you have to have these

2228
01:21:34,130 --> 01:21:32,760
fraternities you have to have these

2229
01:21:35,870 --> 01:21:34,140
secret fraternities to make sure that

2230
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:35,880
this knowledge isn't even then misused

2231
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:38,370
by non what they were called muggers on

2232
01:21:40,820 --> 01:21:39,360
the street right that's highly

2233
01:21:43,100 --> 01:21:40,830
intelligent laymen who shouldn't know

2234
01:21:44,810 --> 01:21:43,110
this and we don't want those laymen also

2235
01:21:46,820 --> 01:21:44,820
going on teaching everybody else how to

2236
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:46,830
do it either so remember if occult

2237
01:21:49,310 --> 01:21:48,090
knowledge is occult because they will

2238
01:21:51,170 --> 01:21:49,320
have to keep it for themselves they

2239
01:21:52,850 --> 01:21:51,180
don't want you doing it they don't want

2240
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:52,860
you finding out about and so they

2241
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:55,110
blocked it done that's why the if you

2242
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:57,600
try and go and study anything that's

2243
01:22:00,440 --> 01:21:59,040
more a satiric well you're not going to

2244
01:22:01,490 --> 01:22:00,450
be able to you have to pick that up on

2245
01:22:03,530 --> 01:22:01,500
your own time you're not gonna be able

2246
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:03,540
to study within college or university in

2247
01:22:07,460 --> 01:22:05,970
fact you may put a you may put a target

2248
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:07,470
on your back by even mentioning that

2249
01:22:15,140 --> 01:22:09,810
you're interested in these things do you

2250
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:15,150
think that the symbolism that the elite

2251
01:22:20,420 --> 01:22:17,520
use obviously I assume you'd think

2252
01:22:21,860 --> 01:22:20,430
there's some esoteric energy in that

2253
01:22:23,810 --> 01:22:21,870
symbolism do you think that's what

2254
01:22:26,060 --> 01:22:23,820
allows them to maintain

2255
01:22:28,879 --> 01:22:26,070
fear of control over many years and over

2256
01:22:30,589 --> 01:22:28,889
global network yeah because they

2257
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:30,599
remember the the sciences that they're

2258
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:32,250
using these meta arcs that they're using

2259
01:22:37,970 --> 01:22:35,130
are not negative in themselves they're

2260
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:37,980
not evil vexing no there's nothing evil

2261
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:40,650
of accomplices and protractors and you

2262
01:22:45,319 --> 01:22:43,770
know tarot cards and astrologer and any

2263
01:22:48,379 --> 01:22:45,329
other things that they're using in

2264
01:22:50,330 --> 01:22:48,389
themselves are completely neutral as a

2265
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:50,340
matter of fact all the tools that

2266
01:22:54,020 --> 01:22:52,770
they're using were once in the hands of

2267
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:54,030
you know the world's greatest

2268
01:22:58,459 --> 01:22:56,610
enlightened people and we're used for

2269
01:22:59,660 --> 01:22:58,469
the good of all humanity now more than

2270
01:23:01,280 --> 01:22:59,670
that the things that they're using these

2271
01:23:04,069 --> 01:23:01,290
senses are they using other Sciences of

2272
01:23:04,939 --> 01:23:04,079
the universe there the fact that that's

2273
01:23:06,770 --> 01:23:04,949
the science that holds the universe

2274
01:23:09,709 --> 01:23:06,780
together these are chemical principles

2275
01:23:11,870 --> 01:23:09,719
and these sacred geometrical principles

2276
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:11,880
and these artistic in a musical and

2277
01:23:15,890 --> 01:23:13,650
whatever else color how they manipulate

2278
01:23:19,700 --> 01:23:15,900
color how they manipulate light those

2279
01:23:21,229 --> 01:23:19,710
are all rules laws or whatever you want

2280
01:23:21,589 --> 01:23:21,239
to call it that are already there in the

2281
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:21,599
universe

2282
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:24,810
these people are skewers they are able

2283
01:23:31,490 --> 01:23:29,250
to reconfigure that which is natural

2284
01:23:33,919 --> 01:23:31,500
evil is nothing more than the subversion

2285
01:23:36,589 --> 01:23:33,929
right well of what is natural they

2286
01:23:38,030 --> 01:23:36,599
didn't create a thing in fact they they

2287
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:38,040
are that's what sources that's the

2288
01:23:44,569 --> 01:23:41,730
difference between magic and sorcery so

2289
01:23:46,819 --> 01:23:44,579
when you for example when you see this

2290
01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:46,829
symbolism come out in corporate logos

2291
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:50,159
you think they use that because it's

2292
01:23:56,780 --> 01:23:55,170
just appealing to our subconscious I do

2293
01:23:58,609 --> 01:23:56,790
I think that's the reason and that

2294
01:24:01,339 --> 01:23:58,619
simply that they're putting their badge

2295
01:24:03,050 --> 01:24:01,349
on it just in the same way that if you

2296
01:24:04,669 --> 01:24:03,060
created something or you start a

2297
01:24:06,530 --> 01:24:04,679
football team you know you you sit

2298
01:24:08,270 --> 01:24:06,540
around a lot thinking about the logo and

2299
01:24:10,879 --> 01:24:08,280
what it represents you may base that

2300
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:10,889
logo on a hero of yours or you may want

2301
01:24:15,260 --> 01:24:13,440
to commemorate a famous figure you see

2302
01:24:18,500 --> 01:24:15,270
so you think a lot about the reason why

2303
01:24:20,859 --> 01:24:18,510
you create these logos they do the same

2304
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:20,869
thing if they're looking to commemorate

2305
01:24:26,780 --> 01:24:24,000
not only their line the bloodline like a

2306
01:24:30,770 --> 01:24:26,790
for instance right now on the form under

2307
01:24:32,569 --> 01:24:30,780
Empire of death I've got a logo from the

2308
01:24:34,819 --> 01:24:32,579
city gills of London you know tying into

2309
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:34,829
the whole Royal oligarchic control of

2310
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:36,449
London and therefore meaning the rest of

2311
01:24:41,169 --> 01:24:37,010
the

2312
01:24:43,929 --> 01:24:41,179
control is a network of guilds network

2313
01:24:46,859 --> 01:24:43,939
of universities called the guild city

2314
01:24:51,250 --> 01:24:46,869
Gil's the symbol of that is a Red Lion

2315
01:24:52,569 --> 01:24:51,260
but the tail is a coiled serpent I mean

2316
01:24:54,100 --> 01:24:52,579
anybody can go look at it and agree with

2317
01:24:55,089 --> 01:24:54,110
me that it looks like a blinkin serpent

2318
01:24:58,959 --> 01:24:55,099
because a certain it doesn't look like a

2319
01:25:01,060 --> 01:24:58,969
tail well that is not that tail is is

2320
01:25:02,290 --> 01:25:01,070
meant to indicate a serpent because

2321
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:02,300
they're not really speaking about the

2322
01:25:06,189 --> 01:25:03,679
lion they're speaking about the dragon

2323
01:25:09,339 --> 01:25:06,199
court because the serpent is the serpent

2324
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:09,349
Brotherhood right so in that instance

2325
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:11,449
that logo is just simply commemorating

2326
01:25:17,379 --> 01:25:15,530
the line not an individual but not a

2327
01:25:19,540 --> 01:25:17,389
potent take from the line just the line

2328
01:25:21,399 --> 01:25:19,550
itself a red lion you know and that

2329
01:25:23,949 --> 01:25:21,409
connects to if you go to astrology

2330
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:23,959
well the red lion is all devouring right

2331
01:25:28,419 --> 01:25:26,510
the star known as all the Baron in Leo

2332
01:25:31,060 --> 01:25:28,429
and what-have-you on and on and on

2333
01:25:33,219 --> 01:25:31,070
that's why so many Templar ins bars pubs

2334
01:25:37,589 --> 01:25:33,229
are called red lion because they know

2335
01:25:40,299 --> 01:25:37,599
what we don't know but then more broadly

2336
01:25:44,049 --> 01:25:40,309
they may want to commemorate a specific

2337
01:25:49,569 --> 01:25:44,059
figure and therefore the logo will now

2338
01:25:52,330 --> 01:25:49,579
actually be representing a person or

2339
01:25:54,069 --> 01:25:52,340
some trait that they had you know or

2340
01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:54,079
colors that they preferred or something

2341
01:25:57,159 --> 01:25:55,280
out of their own coat of arms there's

2342
01:25:59,319 --> 01:25:57,169
all sorts of ways of doing this this

2343
01:26:01,060 --> 01:25:59,329
arrangement it ties them even why there

2344
01:26:04,540 --> 01:26:01,070
somebody came along they wanted to

2345
01:26:06,609 --> 01:26:04,550
identify Obama his facial features and

2346
01:26:07,989 --> 01:26:06,619
his presidency with Akhenaten it's the

2347
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:07,999
same thing I'm telling you about when

2348
01:26:10,689 --> 01:26:09,050
you study the stuff that's nothing

2349
01:26:12,959 --> 01:26:10,699
remarkable there at all everyone else

2350
01:26:15,609 --> 01:26:12,969
that's remarkable as a matter of fact

2351
01:26:17,529 --> 01:26:15,619
yeah yeah that's exactly exactly that's

2352
01:26:19,029 --> 01:26:17,539
like give me a favor in fact if you got

2353
01:26:21,489 --> 01:26:19,039
it on the form if you take this symbol

2354
01:26:23,619 --> 01:26:21,499
of his little Ron soul our symbol with

2355
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,629
the three striations and put it right

2356
01:26:26,949 --> 01:26:25,760
next door to the Akhenaten symbol of the

2357
01:26:28,419 --> 01:26:26,959
Sun and I've got it right there on the

2358
01:26:30,129 --> 01:26:28,429
symbolism page in the form I mean I've

2359
01:26:32,589 --> 01:26:30,139
completely in the seal can see that

2360
01:26:34,719 --> 01:26:32,599
there's a there a design or take on the

2361
01:26:36,429 --> 01:26:34,729
same thing so this is that what they do

2362
01:26:38,649 --> 01:26:36,439
have it really this is just the way they

2363
01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:38,659
do think we may only notice at once that

2364
01:26:43,389 --> 01:26:40,729
our entire lives and then go wow that's

2365
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:43,399
really weird these guys are masters on

2366
01:26:46,929 --> 01:26:45,050
it I mean you can't go to a State

2367
01:26:48,699 --> 01:26:46,939
Building you can go to Christian

2368
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:48,709
churches and find the green man you know

2369
01:26:52,300 --> 01:26:50,210
you can you can find the head

2370
01:26:53,650 --> 01:26:52,310
mithras you can find a head of Dionysius

2371
01:26:55,870 --> 01:26:53,660
and the whole source of paganism

2372
01:26:58,360 --> 01:26:55,880
symbolism moment on Christian churches

2373
01:27:00,850 --> 01:26:58,370
on civic buildings checkered floors

2374
01:27:03,729 --> 01:27:00,860
galore how many people walk across the

2375
01:27:05,650 --> 01:27:03,739
checkered floor when they walk into a

2376
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:05,660
State Building or even for that matter

2377
01:27:09,220 --> 01:27:08,030
of university or college how many of

2378
01:27:10,959 --> 01:27:09,230
those people I'm just asking a simple

2379
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:10,969
questions nothing to do with anything

2380
01:27:15,729 --> 01:27:13,730
conspiratorial how many people actually

2381
01:27:17,770 --> 01:27:15,739
know that the checkered floor refers to

2382
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:17,780
the Knights Templars and the Cistercian

2383
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:20,510
order just simply that know very few not

2384
01:27:23,470 --> 01:27:22,010
even the teachers who do it every day so

2385
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:23,480
there you go but yet they're in this

2386
01:27:28,959 --> 01:27:26,000
University meant to be learning things

2387
01:27:32,410 --> 01:27:28,969
meant to be educated and couldn't tell

2388
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:32,420
you why the dimensions of a portal you

2389
01:27:36,729 --> 01:27:34,880
know or that way uh it was people going

2390
01:27:37,780 --> 01:27:36,739
around with the name Tyler or whatever

2391
01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:37,790
it wouldn't even know where that word

2392
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:39,440
came from it wouldn't even know what it

2393
01:27:42,700 --> 01:27:41,510
means at this Masonic you know people

2394
01:27:45,220 --> 01:27:42,710
going around calling yeah I'm called

2395
01:27:48,670 --> 01:27:45,230
Stephen : what's the way : me why I

2396
01:27:50,260 --> 01:27:48,680
don't know you know so you have it's

2397
01:27:52,450 --> 01:27:50,270
right there in plain sight we're not

2398
01:27:53,170 --> 01:27:52,460
talk in one way we say people like me

2399
01:27:55,570 --> 01:27:53,180
are always talking about this is

2400
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:55,580
esoteric and that's a satiric in in one

2401
01:28:00,490 --> 01:27:57,890
way that's not even really true a lot of

2402
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:00,500
it so obvious you know I mean that it's

2403
01:28:05,260 --> 01:28:02,330
really not esoteric it's right there in

2404
01:28:06,910 --> 01:28:05,270
plain view so it's a combination and you

2405
01:28:09,700 --> 01:28:06,920
can literally go back and take these

2406
01:28:11,170 --> 01:28:09,710
dollar bills symbols and the symbols of

2407
01:28:13,660 --> 01:28:11,180
Texaco or the symbols of shell

2408
01:28:16,510 --> 01:28:13,670
corporation or I don't know what AT&T

2409
01:28:19,570 --> 01:28:16,520
you name it and you can find the exact

2410
01:28:21,850 --> 01:28:19,580
duplicates way back in the time of Rome

2411
01:28:23,260 --> 01:28:21,860
way back in the time of Egypt if it

2412
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:23,270
hasn't already been suppressed that's

2413
01:28:29,979 --> 01:28:26,330
only what we've got right and you

2414
01:28:31,959 --> 01:28:29,989
mentioned the Green Man which charted a

2415
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:31,969
memory of mine I saw a lot like

2416
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:33,650
obviously a lot of the symbolism happens

2417
01:28:39,220 --> 01:28:36,080
in Hollywood as well I've seen uh

2418
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:39,230
faint on Jim Carrey specifically

2419
01:28:44,860 --> 01:28:41,570
embodying the Green Man and his movies

2420
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:44,870
like the mask he wears a green mask he

2421
01:28:49,300 --> 01:28:46,610
also played the Grinch which is a green

2422
01:28:51,790 --> 01:28:49,310
character over a couple examples and it

2423
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:51,800
just makes me wonder like well I

2424
01:28:56,110 --> 01:28:54,530
wouldn't say think that he like is he

2425
01:28:58,450 --> 01:28:56,120
and in on that like it just seems weird

2426
01:29:00,820 --> 01:28:58,460
that you'd be able to find these

2427
01:29:02,209 --> 01:29:00,830
coincidences and point out like 10 12

2428
01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:02,219
different instances of

2429
01:29:07,859 --> 01:29:04,780
symbolizing the green man for an some

2430
01:29:09,149 --> 01:29:07,869
actor I don't know well well just in the

2431
01:29:11,159 --> 01:29:09,159
same way that you don't blame the

2432
01:29:12,449 --> 01:29:11,169
merchant necessarily if his logo turns

2433
01:29:13,319 --> 01:29:12,459
out to be some sort of Masonic thing

2434
01:29:15,060 --> 01:29:13,329
right

2435
01:29:17,459 --> 01:29:15,070
you don't exonerate them either but you

2436
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:17,469
don't necessarily implicate them until

2437
01:29:22,139 --> 01:29:19,840
you're totally sure you don't also

2438
01:29:24,929 --> 01:29:22,149
implicate the actor necessarily if is if

2439
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:24,939
his smartass production people who make

2440
01:29:30,209 --> 01:29:27,130
in these films are much smarter than him

2441
01:29:31,889 --> 01:29:30,219
right so you think that you know if he

2442
01:29:35,639 --> 01:29:31,899
were to be symbolizing the Green Man

2443
01:29:37,020 --> 01:29:35,649
that it's more producers people behind

2444
01:29:38,250 --> 01:29:37,030
the scenes that find these scripts to

2445
01:29:41,239 --> 01:29:38,260
put them in and what I just don't

2446
01:29:44,819 --> 01:29:41,249
understand what the purpose is of

2447
01:29:46,500 --> 01:29:44,829
creating that type of situation

2448
01:29:47,759 --> 01:29:46,510
well that's because you have to study

2449
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:47,769
magic you have to learn about

2450
01:29:53,310 --> 01:29:50,530
sympathetic magic these deep forms of

2451
01:29:55,489 --> 01:29:53,320
hypnosis that are used

2452
01:29:57,449 --> 01:29:55,499
I've always will try to put it this way

2453
01:30:01,199 --> 01:29:57,459
first let me answer your question about

2454
01:30:03,029 --> 01:30:01,209
the actor dynamic the art directors are

2455
01:30:04,889 --> 01:30:03,039
the ones who do it all the art directors

2456
01:30:06,689 --> 01:30:04,899
work with the producers work with not

2457
01:30:09,029 --> 01:30:06,699
the producer but the directors they

2458
01:30:10,799 --> 01:30:09,039
often are coming from a deeply in a

2459
01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:10,809
great interest sometimes healthy

2460
01:30:16,020 --> 01:30:14,320
sometimes not interest in symbolism then

2461
01:30:17,939 --> 01:30:16,030
you have a lot of these directors

2462
01:30:19,979 --> 01:30:17,949
because believe me it's not easy to make

2463
01:30:22,979 --> 01:30:19,989
movies it takes millions you have to be

2464
01:30:24,149 --> 01:30:22,989
really in with the establishment so for

2465
01:30:27,569 --> 01:30:24,159
instance a particular person like

2466
01:30:29,969 --> 01:30:27,579
Stanley Kubrick for instance their work

2467
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:29,979
is layered with esoteric meaning because

2468
01:30:33,929 --> 01:30:32,050
either they have an interest in it as a

2469
01:30:35,969 --> 01:30:33,939
lay man or they are actually members of

2470
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:35,979
esoteric societies and are just frontman

2471
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:38,320
for those Masonic societies so when you

2472
01:30:42,089 --> 01:30:40,090
go frame by frame and start looking at

2473
01:30:46,549 --> 01:30:42,099
the esoteric symbolism in say something

2474
01:30:50,879 --> 01:30:46,559
like Eyes Wide Shut or even a Spielberg

2475
01:30:52,049 --> 01:30:50,889
piece of garbage you know like no I got

2476
01:30:53,250 --> 01:30:52,059
back of the future or whatever this

2477
01:30:55,229 --> 01:30:53,260
nonsense you know and then you scrub

2478
01:30:56,580 --> 01:30:55,239
counters apparently had a lot of exactly

2479
01:30:58,139 --> 01:30:56,590
and the showman I'll even now these

2480
01:30:59,279 --> 01:30:58,149
latest movies are immortal you know it's

2481
01:31:01,949 --> 01:30:59,289
all this in a flim symbolism and

2482
01:31:03,779 --> 01:31:01,959
what-have-you so yeah when you go frame

2483
01:31:05,549 --> 01:31:03,789
by frame you start nosing less obviously

2484
01:31:07,259 --> 01:31:05,559
esoteric stuff that's because these

2485
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:07,269
people are themselves just frontmen

2486
01:31:11,459 --> 01:31:09,280
messengers so to speak mercurial

2487
01:31:13,229 --> 01:31:11,469
messengers for these secret societies

2488
01:31:15,060 --> 01:31:13,239
who want to put out this esoteric

2489
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:15,070
information but they have learned from a

2490
01:31:18,890 --> 01:31:15,330
law

2491
01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:18,900
time back to do it in this play of masks

2492
01:31:21,230 --> 01:31:19,440
okay

2493
01:31:23,450 --> 01:31:21,240
now that doesn't mean that the guy who's

2494
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:23,460
trying to earn a living at the end often

2495
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:25,110
they're completely ignorant I mean have

2496
01:31:29,810 --> 01:31:27,360
even tracked some of these films when

2497
01:31:31,430 --> 01:31:29,820
they won the actor is being interviewed

2498
01:31:33,470 --> 01:31:31,440
about some of the symbolism you know I

2499
01:31:35,060 --> 01:31:33,480
mean they're totally idiotic they don't

2500
01:31:36,890 --> 01:31:35,070
have a clue sometimes they do sometimes

2501
01:31:38,510 --> 01:31:36,900
they don't all I can say is that yeah

2502
01:31:39,830 --> 01:31:38,520
there's a humongous difference between

2503
01:31:44,110 --> 01:31:39,840
the level of intelligence of a Peter

2504
01:31:48,110 --> 01:31:44,120
Weir who would make the Truman Show and

2505
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:48,120
the actor right who if you ask him later

2506
01:31:50,810 --> 01:31:49,770
on after the movies made so what do you

2507
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:50,820
think I've meant when you went through a

2508
01:31:58,750 --> 01:31:55,050
door in the sky uh well gee I don't

2509
01:32:01,970 --> 01:31:58,760
really know you know so I got paid

2510
01:32:03,110 --> 01:32:01,980
they're like performing seals later on

2511
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:03,120
they may become a little bit more

2512
01:32:05,780 --> 01:32:04,530
knowledgeable and a certain if they want

2513
01:32:07,570 --> 01:32:05,790
to go on and direct anything they're

2514
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:07,580
gonna have to start getting into it and

2515
01:32:11,630 --> 01:32:09,930
believe me I'm the first to say that I'm

2516
01:32:13,610 --> 01:32:11,640
skeptic about all of these people actors

2517
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:13,620
included I mean I am really skeptical

2518
01:32:18,110 --> 01:32:15,210
about them all I do believe they're one

2519
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:18,120
big giant cabal there in Hollywood that

2520
01:32:21,410 --> 01:32:19,710
a lot of these guys are in the know I'm

2521
01:32:23,540 --> 01:32:21,420
very unforgiving with them but at the

2522
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:23,550
same time one has to always say take

2523
01:32:27,650 --> 01:32:26,370
each individual case as it goes but then

2524
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:27,660
getting onto the more deeper question of

2525
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:30,570
the esoteric stuff is I summon up like

2526
01:32:34,250 --> 01:32:33,090
this one of the most important things to

2527
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:34,260
always remember when you're dealing with

2528
01:32:37,940 --> 01:32:35,760
a melting media here especially the

2529
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:37,950
people who create video games and all of

2530
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:41,010
this all of this media visual media is

2531
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:44,330
that we would be in a dire straight

2532
01:32:50,420 --> 01:32:47,370
psychotic state if they weren't able to

2533
01:32:52,250 --> 01:32:50,430
feed drip feed us some of the archetypal

2534
01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:52,260
symbolism that they've also raped us off

2535
01:32:56,780 --> 01:32:55,110
by the other hand in order to get the

2536
01:32:58,220 --> 01:32:56,790
slave to be the slave you had had to

2537
01:33:02,480 --> 01:32:58,230
rape him through his life through

2538
01:33:04,870 --> 01:33:02,490
centuries of time on on this archetypal

2539
01:33:07,550 --> 01:33:04,880
level you've got to put you know 50-foot

2540
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:07,560
steel doors between him and his true

2541
01:33:10,910 --> 01:33:09,600
self or you have to shut down the right

2542
01:33:13,010 --> 01:33:10,920
brain and you know there's many ways of

2543
01:33:15,470 --> 01:33:13,020
languaging this you have to shut down

2544
01:33:17,450 --> 01:33:15,480
his aesthetic appreciation like we

2545
01:33:20,270 --> 01:33:17,460
talked about Nietzsche saying you have

2546
01:33:22,010 --> 01:33:20,280
to open it up again but what they have

2547
01:33:24,830 --> 01:33:22,020
discovered to their horror is that if

2548
01:33:27,170 --> 01:33:24,840
you do that then you basically have a

2549
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:27,180
psychotic creature on your hands now

2550
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:28,800
they don't mind that too

2551
01:33:32,330 --> 01:33:30,690
degree but the psychotic has still got

2552
01:33:34,940 --> 01:33:32,340
to get in this car every day and go down

2553
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:34,950
there and push the wheel he still got to

2554
01:33:38,690 --> 01:33:36,810
breed a new generation of slaves and

2555
01:33:40,970 --> 01:33:38,700
whatever else easy to roam the entire

2556
01:33:44,540 --> 01:33:40,980
planet so they only want a certain

2557
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:44,550
neurotic individual so up that he

2558
01:33:47,780 --> 01:33:45,930
won't be able to do is in her homework

2559
01:33:51,050 --> 01:33:47,790
they find a spiritual core but he

2560
01:33:54,410 --> 01:33:51,060
shouldn't be so crazed art so lost that

2561
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:54,420
he can't perform his duties for Big

2562
01:34:00,020 --> 01:33:57,570
Brother so what they do then is they

2563
01:34:02,990 --> 01:34:00,030
sang you down to the cinema or they put

2564
01:34:04,910 --> 01:34:03,000
these because they know that the food of

2565
01:34:06,410 --> 01:34:04,920
the mind must be symbolic you're missing

2566
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:06,420
this whole archive inside yourself that

2567
01:34:09,950 --> 01:34:07,770
they have suppressed they've raped

2568
01:34:12,650 --> 01:34:09,960
whole nations man whole I'm talking

2569
01:34:14,510 --> 01:34:12,660
about the wholesale rape of entire

2570
01:34:16,850 --> 01:34:14,520
groups of people not just the Druids but

2571
01:34:18,860 --> 01:34:16,860
many other powerful gnostic spiritual

2572
01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:18,870
groups who used to teach people this who

2573
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:21,360
very much were using symbolism who were

2574
01:34:25,700 --> 01:34:23,250
trying to awaken this aesthetic sense or

2575
01:34:28,610 --> 01:34:25,710
had it awakened so we have had centuries

2576
01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:28,620
of purgation so that your modern man is

2577
01:34:35,630 --> 01:34:33,450
utterly utterly vagrant utterly cut off

2578
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:35,640
from these symbolic roots i mean call

2579
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:37,170
young one blue in the face talking about

2580
01:34:42,980 --> 01:34:39,570
this and so they realized that that is

2581
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:42,990
made man very weak so by creating this

2582
01:34:48,770 --> 01:34:45,570
aesthetic movement and putting in it so

2583
01:34:50,570 --> 01:34:48,780
many deep archetypal ancient look at the

2584
01:34:52,430 --> 01:34:50,580
movie the fountain look how much the

2585
01:34:54,620 --> 01:34:52,440
Tree of Life you know I'm obsessed with

2586
01:34:57,290 --> 01:34:54,630
this kampachi that was a weird movie

2587
01:34:59,240 --> 01:34:57,300
remember and ends right yeah we tried

2588
01:35:02,030 --> 01:34:59,250
watching that and that movie was just so

2589
01:35:03,860 --> 01:35:02,040
odd yeah very very very bizarre movie

2590
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:03,870
now one of the central themes and into

2591
01:35:06,830 --> 01:35:04,530
this Tree of Life

2592
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:06,840
I mean I'm obsessed with that ok I've

2593
01:35:10,370 --> 01:35:07,890
got a whole thing coming out of that

2594
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:10,380
I've got a whole appendices on it you

2595
01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:12,810
know I mean and there it is in this

2596
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:14,400
movie it's a central place not just in

2597
01:35:18,430 --> 01:35:16,170
this movie with the religious symbolism

2598
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:18,440
of the Tree of Life goes back

2599
01:35:21,290 --> 01:35:20,370
unbelievably and many thousands of years

2600
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:21,300
you can find it in our earliest

2601
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:23,040
Babylonian symbolism is right there in

2602
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:25,530
the book of Genesis and here is it as a

2603
01:35:29,150 --> 01:35:27,090
central character you know in this

2604
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:29,160
innocent modern film with all its

2605
01:35:34,700 --> 01:35:32,730
archetypal symbolism around it so the

2606
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:34,710
people who do this they know that they

2607
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:36,690
have to every now and again give you

2608
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:39,570
that I think a good parallel would be

2609
01:35:42,620 --> 01:35:42,330
isn't it that when you're a drug addict

2610
01:35:44,660 --> 01:35:42,630
like a

2611
01:35:46,459 --> 01:35:44,670
heroin addict and if you declare that

2612
01:35:47,810 --> 01:35:46,469
you are you can get free needles and

2613
01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:47,820
they like injecting with some of the

2614
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:48,960
heroin or something is that what they do

2615
01:35:52,820 --> 01:35:51,210
I don't know Dave that they they don't

2616
01:35:55,790 --> 01:35:52,830
do that in the States but they do that

2617
01:35:59,120 --> 01:35:55,800
some parts of the world yeah right well

2618
01:36:01,459 --> 01:35:59,130
they give in the states they give heroin

2619
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:01,469
addicts methadone well that's what

2620
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:03,449
they're basically doing with this for me

2621
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:04,560
when when you see this

2622
01:36:09,020 --> 01:36:07,110
there re invigorating you like putting

2623
01:36:10,370 --> 01:36:09,030
that the metaphor of drugs or the

2624
01:36:12,020 --> 01:36:10,380
metaphor about when you're falling into

2625
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:12,030
a complete state of sleep they give you

2626
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:16,170
those they put that I'm sulfur in front

2627
01:36:21,169 --> 01:36:17,370
of your nose you know you wake up sort

2628
01:36:24,410 --> 01:36:21,179
of again so yeah exactly that's what it

2629
01:36:27,770 --> 01:36:24,420
is it's reminding you it's reimbold and

2630
01:36:31,610 --> 01:36:27,780
bowling you not enough for you to really

2631
01:36:32,959 --> 01:36:31,620
get aware again although leave me some

2632
01:36:34,790 --> 01:36:32,969
of them some people do get very inspired

2633
01:36:36,770 --> 01:36:34,800
by this but on the whole is just you

2634
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:36,780
know get out your popcorn go and watch

2635
01:36:40,430 --> 01:36:40,050
something here you know fascinating Star

2636
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:40,440
Wars

2637
01:36:45,350 --> 01:36:42,960
whatever you know good versus evil you

2638
01:36:47,570 --> 01:36:45,360
know all the things we know that these

2639
01:36:49,820 --> 01:36:47,580
movies contain throw in a bunch of great

2640
01:36:53,959 --> 01:36:49,830
symbolism you know alchemy like the end

2641
01:36:56,510 --> 01:36:53,969
of Star Trek one where there's this an

2642
01:36:58,970 --> 01:36:56,520
amazing meeting of man and woman

2643
01:37:00,890 --> 01:36:58,980
together where they transcend and go

2644
01:37:03,110 --> 01:37:00,900
into become one you know so there we

2645
01:37:05,149 --> 01:37:03,120
have a concept of I hope their audience

2646
01:37:09,050 --> 01:37:05,159
is familiar with androgyny it turns out

2647
01:37:11,780 --> 01:37:09,060
endlessly in movies very ancient very

2648
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:11,790
powerful ancient alchemical motif that

2649
01:37:16,729 --> 01:37:14,130
is embedded in the unconscious so in the

2650
01:37:18,410 --> 01:37:16,739
end of that movie they have this amazing

2651
01:37:19,820 --> 01:37:18,420
scene where the male and the female

2652
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:19,830
literally blend together you have

2653
01:37:23,180 --> 01:37:21,449
exactly the same type of scene at the

2654
01:37:25,490 --> 01:37:23,190
end of Dracula bronze Stoker's Dracula

2655
01:37:27,890 --> 01:37:25,500
where when she cuts off the head of the

2656
01:37:29,780 --> 01:37:27,900
account he dies and then she kills

2657
01:37:31,879 --> 01:37:29,790
herself and there's a some sort of

2658
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:31,889
spiritual nucleation of the male and

2659
01:37:37,939 --> 01:37:33,210
female and then the last thing you see

2660
01:37:39,620 --> 01:37:37,949
is this angelic androgynous ascent like

2661
01:37:41,660 --> 01:37:39,630
a Transfiguration taking place to see

2662
01:37:44,510 --> 01:37:41,670
and you have it over and over and over

2663
01:37:46,970 --> 01:37:44,520
again in various films this concept of

2664
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:46,980
androgyny and you know I try to go list

2665
01:37:52,340 --> 01:37:50,250
of these motifs that they're using all

2666
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:52,350
the time the Tree of Life the redheaded

2667
01:37:56,370 --> 01:37:55,110
woman the rare dressed woman the woman

2668
01:37:58,220 --> 01:37:56,380
in the red dress or whatever my

2669
01:38:00,720 --> 01:37:58,230
see the checkered floor you name it

2670
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:00,730
these are there because they would need

2671
01:38:07,860 --> 01:38:05,370
to keep you somewhat archetypal II know

2672
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:07,870
I'm looking for the word like nutrients

2673
01:38:12,830 --> 01:38:10,810
or it's it's nourished right to an

2674
01:38:15,420 --> 01:38:12,840
extent just so that you're not so

2675
01:38:16,740 --> 01:38:15,430
malnutrition function you know that's

2676
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:16,750
what it is but it certainly isn't so

2677
01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:18,400
that the whole world they're itching to

2678
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:20,320
enlighten the world maybe you get that

2679
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:22,210
through another kind of movie like V for

2680
01:38:24,060 --> 01:38:22,810
Vendetta

2681
01:38:26,030 --> 01:38:24,070
there are certain movies that do fall

2682
01:38:28,530 --> 01:38:26,040
into the category I'm not I'm not matric

2683
01:38:30,300 --> 01:38:28,540
yeah yeah I'm not even The Truman Show

2684
01:38:32,700 --> 01:38:30,310
I'm certainly saying those are movies

2685
01:38:34,350 --> 01:38:32,710
that are highly artistic designed to

2686
01:38:36,300 --> 01:38:34,360
awaken the aesthetic sense certainly

2687
01:38:37,950 --> 01:38:36,310
designed to turn you on to some greater

2688
01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:37,960
more metaphysical motifs there's no

2689
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:39,520
doubt in my mind that that is that's the

2690
01:38:43,500 --> 01:38:41,650
fact but there are a lot of other movies

2691
01:38:45,540 --> 01:38:43,510
as well that are doing the opposite

2692
01:38:47,700 --> 01:38:45,550
there's sorcery they're there to inspire

2693
01:38:49,260 --> 01:38:47,710
an agenda from add-on what's called a

2694
01:38:50,610 --> 01:38:49,270
Dionysian filter that the group that I

2695
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:50,620
on you mentioned earlier that you watch

2696
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:52,690
my age of manipulation so you know that

2697
01:38:56,700 --> 01:38:55,090
I went into this in great detail not to

2698
01:38:58,530 --> 01:38:56,710
mention the more sordid satanic cults

2699
01:39:02,700 --> 01:38:58,540
are involved but just in general is a

2700
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:02,710
cult of Dionysus whose job it is to put

2701
01:39:12,630 --> 01:39:09,010
solar cult androgynous celebs in front

2702
01:39:15,150 --> 01:39:12,640
of us the Mick Jagger's David Boies who

2703
01:39:17,910 --> 01:39:15,160
else Jim Morrison you know that kind of

2704
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:17,920
thing and even more ridiculous versions

2705
01:39:23,550 --> 01:39:20,320
today that I'm dropped that's another

2706
01:39:25,620 --> 01:39:23,560
version again to keep an iconic these

2707
01:39:27,690 --> 01:39:25,630
actually these men soul are children

2708
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:27,700
represent Mithras they actually

2709
01:39:32,670 --> 01:39:30,250
represent the very gods that these

2710
01:39:34,590 --> 01:39:32,680
Illuminati adore and when I mean a door

2711
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:34,600
I mean worship I mean really worship

2712
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:36,610
these guys so they will make a little

2713
01:39:41,850 --> 01:39:38,770
myth they'll create a hero like an Elvis

2714
01:39:43,020 --> 01:39:41,860
or whoever and that being will jump

2715
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:43,030
through the hoops in the very same way

2716
01:39:46,980 --> 01:39:44,050
that you were speaking of Jim Carrey

2717
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:46,990
doing will live out in his movies or his

2718
01:39:54,330 --> 01:39:48,730
music or in some other or even scenario

2719
01:39:55,650 --> 01:39:54,340
will live out the life drama of one of

2720
01:39:57,420 --> 01:39:55,660
these potentates that they actually

2721
01:39:59,490 --> 01:39:57,430
worship like literally live out the life

2722
01:40:01,620 --> 01:39:59,500
of Horus or live out the because it'll

2723
01:40:03,660 --> 01:40:01,630
be in some balance one or Sun symbolism

2724
01:40:06,210 --> 01:40:03,670
in the case of Elvis right thank God

2725
01:40:08,970 --> 01:40:06,220
right absolutely and again some of it

2726
01:40:09,580 --> 01:40:08,980
happens autonomously and the rest of it

2727
01:40:11,530 --> 01:40:09,590
is very

2728
01:40:13,810 --> 01:40:11,540
I'd say that now it's almost entirely

2729
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:13,820
contrived but remember even if it wasn't

2730
01:40:17,740 --> 01:40:15,650
contract this happens this happen

2731
01:40:19,270 --> 01:40:17,750
so they've note their there they know

2732
01:40:20,410 --> 01:40:19,280
they'd notice this they've noticed that

2733
01:40:22,689 --> 01:40:20,420
in ancient times it happened

2734
01:40:24,129 --> 01:40:22,699
automatically and now all they do is

2735
01:40:27,100 --> 01:40:24,139
they just make it sort of a simulacra

2736
01:40:28,510 --> 01:40:27,110
simulated version so that all the girls

2737
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:28,520
or whatever I'll identify with it or

2738
01:40:31,629 --> 01:40:30,050
whatever and the fashions will start up

2739
01:40:32,890 --> 01:40:31,639
and then you know whatever it might be

2740
01:40:35,260 --> 01:40:32,900
they know that the certain kind of

2741
01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:35,270
psyche that is more eclectic that's more

2742
01:40:42,129 --> 01:40:37,520
synthetic that's more right brain put

2743
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:42,139
these heroes in front of the media and

2744
01:40:47,229 --> 01:40:44,449
in the commercials in the Levi's ads and

2745
01:40:49,060 --> 01:40:47,239
you name it all in the magazines and

2746
01:40:51,370 --> 01:40:49,070
that will do the trick and people will

2747
01:40:53,669 --> 01:40:51,380
have a faintest idea of what is being

2748
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:53,679
communicated by way all these

2749
01:40:57,609 --> 01:40:56,330
advertisements for jeans or whatever it

2750
01:40:58,810 --> 01:40:57,619
might be you know it's just unbelievable

2751
01:40:59,979 --> 01:40:58,820
when you get into it and if you've seen

2752
01:41:01,959 --> 01:40:59,989
my age of manipulation you'll know that

2753
01:41:03,729 --> 01:41:01,969
it's like I think you said earlier

2754
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:03,739
yourself it's such a huge field how can

2755
01:41:08,379 --> 01:41:06,770
any one DVD or presentation cover it you

2756
01:41:10,540 --> 01:41:08,389
one of my biggest problems is people

2757
01:41:12,490 --> 01:41:10,550
always emailing me no I will talk more

2758
01:41:13,930 --> 01:41:12,500
about that here's me yeah I wish I could

2759
01:41:16,180 --> 01:41:13,940
at them but you know I mean there's only

2760
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:16,190
so many hours I can even me even I can

2761
01:41:20,830 --> 01:41:19,040
stand up on a stage but without dropping

2762
01:41:22,899 --> 01:41:20,840
you know it's just so lengthy it's so

2763
01:41:23,290 --> 01:41:22,909
when depth and then I'm again I can't do

2764
01:41:25,660 --> 01:41:23,300
it all

2765
01:41:27,879 --> 01:41:25,670
my point is to make a lot of you know

2766
01:41:29,919 --> 01:41:27,889
suggestions and show people away but you

2767
01:41:31,390 --> 01:41:29,929
know really they got to go up and do it

2768
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:31,400
themselves I provided the information

2769
01:41:34,510 --> 01:41:33,170
and provided the sources people need to

2770
01:41:36,700 --> 01:41:34,520
get into it and really understand this

2771
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:36,710
how this works for two reasons one is to

2772
01:41:39,910 --> 01:41:38,210
take the power away from the sorcerer

2773
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:39,920
and two is to use it yourself for

2774
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,610
positive reason I had a question for you

2775
01:41:46,839 --> 01:41:45,199
it's kind of a maybe a little bit of a

2776
01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:46,849
personal question I see a lot of

2777
01:41:52,300 --> 01:41:49,520
similarities in electronic dance music

2778
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:52,310
today and like ancient tribal sounds and

2779
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:55,489
I was just wondering do you personally

2780
01:42:01,030 --> 01:41:58,880
listen to electronic music um yeah I

2781
01:42:04,089 --> 01:42:01,040
like trance music a lot I like the orb

2782
01:42:06,189 --> 01:42:04,099
and the future sounds of London and and

2783
01:42:09,550 --> 01:42:06,199
you know even tangerine dream and a

2784
01:42:11,379 --> 01:42:09,560
certain amount of uh uh you know like

2785
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:11,389
evangelist and even and what's-his-name

2786
01:42:17,350 --> 01:42:15,170
oh there's so many I'm a big fan of

2787
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:17,360
trance music and like a lot more

2788
01:42:21,410 --> 01:42:18,960
psychedelic

2789
01:42:24,140 --> 01:42:21,420
like the harder inside like almost like

2790
01:42:25,939 --> 01:42:24,150
an infected mushroom yeah and electronic

2791
01:42:28,669 --> 01:42:25,949
that I like industrial I like an

2792
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:28,679
industrial music sure like I like it in

2793
01:42:32,169 --> 01:42:30,239
fact I like any music that has that

2794
01:42:34,220 --> 01:42:32,179
mantra

2795
01:42:36,229 --> 01:42:34,230
rhythmic stuff you know whether it's

2796
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:36,239
whether it's in a more industrial metal

2797
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:38,010
type of thing or even more trance music

2798
01:42:42,350 --> 01:42:40,530
which I adore like music a lot elissa

2799
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:42,360
more symphonic well I'm a musician

2800
01:42:47,270 --> 01:42:45,449
that's why I wanted to ask that question

2801
01:42:48,979 --> 01:42:47,280
because I heard the song that you played

2802
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:48,989
during the free your mind with the

2803
01:42:53,060 --> 01:42:51,360
symbolism and you're like you had the

2804
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:53,070
different pictures and one was going

2805
01:42:56,570 --> 01:42:55,050
into another and you like you can see

2806
01:42:58,430 --> 01:42:56,580
the correlations through all these

2807
01:43:01,939 --> 01:42:58,440
symbols when I was just that's what

2808
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:01,949
sparked my question yeah I tried to put

2809
01:43:05,870 --> 01:43:03,890
as much of that music into my own

2810
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:05,880
documentaries as possible cuz I listened

2811
01:43:09,830 --> 01:43:07,679
to it a lot and I enjoy right brains

2812
01:43:12,290 --> 01:43:09,840
very stream of consciousness and it's

2813
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:12,300
music that allows you to dive in where

2814
01:43:16,220 --> 01:43:14,010
you're know you're more personally

2815
01:43:17,930 --> 01:43:16,230
involved it's not linear and it's not a

2816
01:43:20,209 --> 01:43:17,940
song necessarily with lyrics or

2817
01:43:22,340 --> 01:43:20,219
structured you know sort of sort of 23

2818
01:43:24,020 --> 01:43:22,350
minute song whatever so it allows you to

2819
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:24,030
go in there and it's what I like it a

2820
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:26,010
lot is because I work so hard that if I

2821
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:29,010
if I play just three minutes songs yeah

2822
01:43:32,899 --> 01:43:30,719
you know you go stir-crazy listening

2823
01:43:36,050 --> 01:43:32,909
even if even songs you really like which

2824
01:43:37,939 --> 01:43:36,060
if you put on the trance music you know

2825
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:37,949
it's different every time every time you

2826
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:39,690
put that same piece on you are hearing

2827
01:43:44,419 --> 01:43:41,130
more in it and it doesn't become a

2828
01:43:48,500 --> 01:43:44,429
boring yeah of course like you hear the

2829
01:43:51,380 --> 01:43:48,510
different layerings of the different for

2830
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:51,390
instance what I used to do retail I've

2831
01:43:53,330 --> 01:43:52,290
been working in bookstores and

2832
01:43:55,310 --> 01:43:53,340
what-have-you and we'd always tries to

2833
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:55,320
step it we try to slip the trance music

2834
01:43:59,570 --> 01:43:57,360
on when the boss was right because then

2835
01:44:01,490 --> 01:43:59,580
your day goes by faster because if

2836
01:44:02,899 --> 01:44:01,500
you're listening to these very formulaic

2837
01:44:04,970 --> 01:44:02,909
kinds of music it becomes very

2838
01:44:08,270 --> 01:44:04,980
monotonous and you almost feel more

2839
01:44:10,580 --> 01:44:08,280
tense yeah you know awesome

2840
01:44:12,919 --> 01:44:10,590
well hey you know we've pretty much

2841
01:44:14,390 --> 01:44:12,929
almost taken up 2 hours of your time but

2842
01:44:18,530 --> 01:44:14,400
uh-huh I mean it's been great

2843
01:44:21,130 --> 01:44:18,540
eye-opening very inspiring oh one other

2844
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:21,140
quick question I had easy to answer is

2845
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:23,250
excluding your own work just for the

2846
01:44:27,500 --> 01:44:25,770
sake of the question what would you say

2847
01:44:30,169 --> 01:44:27,510
if you had to narrow it down be the

2848
01:44:31,359 --> 01:44:30,179
three most important books that someone

2849
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:31,369
could read

2850
01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:33,050
well certainly top of the list would be

2851
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:36,560
like in my eyes I'd say that dr. John

2852
01:44:43,330 --> 01:44:40,130
Coleman any of his work is highly

2853
01:44:44,859 --> 01:44:43,340
recommended a book by a Webster Tarpeian

2854
01:44:47,830 --> 01:44:44,869
Lyndon LaRouche crud called dope

2855
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:47,840
incorporated because it specifically

2856
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:50,570
shows you the British connections of how

2857
01:44:55,270 --> 01:44:52,880
America is run by the British oligarchy

2858
01:44:57,310 --> 01:44:55,280
that is a piece that is so important to

2859
01:44:58,000 --> 01:44:57,320
know about it not only takes you back to

2860
01:45:00,430 --> 01:44:58,010
the time of the Constitution

2861
01:45:01,839 --> 01:45:00,440
what-have-you but it also explains

2862
01:45:03,399 --> 01:45:01,849
what's going on in today's world who

2863
01:45:05,260 --> 01:45:03,409
these presidents are you know how they

2864
01:45:07,540 --> 01:45:05,270
come to power the can of the treachery

2865
01:45:09,339 --> 01:45:07,550
it also explains what these federal orgs

2866
01:45:11,649 --> 01:45:09,349
come about in the world control from an

2867
01:45:13,060 --> 01:45:11,659
American point of view and why I say

2868
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:13,070
this is because Americans are usually

2869
01:45:16,780 --> 01:45:15,770
quite well-off to speed on the that

2870
01:45:18,220 --> 01:45:16,790
there is a conspiracy

2871
01:45:20,050 --> 01:45:18,230
they beat the world knowing that this

2872
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:20,060
conspiracy but many of them have not

2873
01:45:25,750 --> 01:45:21,679
made the transition yet to know how the

2874
01:45:26,979 --> 01:45:25,760
British aristocracy factored in they

2875
01:45:28,899 --> 01:45:26,989
think they're free and that British has

2876
01:45:30,459 --> 01:45:28,909
got nothing to do with it is extremely

2877
01:45:32,770 --> 01:45:30,469
important that they read Doctor John

2878
01:45:35,470 --> 01:45:32,780
Coleman and dope incorporated from

2879
01:45:37,300 --> 01:45:35,480
people like webster tarpley those are

2880
01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:37,310
highly recommended and then satellite to

2881
01:45:41,140 --> 01:45:38,719
that is of course then the G Edward

2882
01:45:44,109 --> 01:45:41,150
Griffin who do speak about the same

2883
01:45:48,790 --> 01:45:44,119
thing and Eustace Mullins that kind of

2884
01:45:50,050 --> 01:45:48,800
thing and those are crucial there's so

2885
01:45:52,450 --> 01:45:50,060
many others I could mention and have

2886
01:45:54,339 --> 01:45:52,460
listed if people go to my articles and

2887
01:45:55,540 --> 01:45:54,349
look at the Constitution Cohn article or

2888
01:45:57,070 --> 01:45:55,550
look at the weapons of mass destruction

2889
01:45:58,540 --> 01:45:57,080
found article go to the bottom and

2890
01:46:00,609 --> 01:45:58,550
you'll find all these authors that I

2891
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:00,619
list but since you asked me that

2892
01:46:07,229 --> 01:46:02,090
question right now those are the ones I

2893
01:46:13,899 --> 01:46:10,030
he wrote the book treason in America

2894
01:46:16,839 --> 01:46:13,909
Anthony chicken an incredibly important

2895
01:46:18,129 --> 01:46:16,849
book there you know so there's a because

2896
01:46:20,350 --> 01:46:18,139
you are speaking just about it

2897
01:46:22,419 --> 01:46:20,360
conspiracy aspect right well yeah I mean

2898
01:46:24,669 --> 01:46:22,429
well just in your opinion since you have

2899
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:24,679
such a much more broad understanding of

2900
01:46:28,959 --> 01:46:26,690
all the all the material be it you know

2901
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:28,969
symbolism be a control or even just

2902
01:46:34,959 --> 01:46:32,210
historical hidden knowledge you know if

2903
01:46:38,919 --> 01:46:34,969
someone was really looking to dive dive

2904
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:38,929
in you know what's what's where's the

2905
01:46:42,879 --> 01:46:41,090
good jumping-off point I'm sure all

2906
01:46:44,140 --> 01:46:42,889
these books are a great great

2907
01:46:46,300 --> 01:46:44,150
jumping-off points

2908
01:46:48,790 --> 01:46:46,310
I would recommend my own work because

2909
01:46:51,370 --> 01:46:48,800
I've tried to synthesize just for that

2910
01:46:52,959 --> 01:46:51,380
very reason right that's why I love your

2911
01:46:55,090 --> 01:46:52,969
work because you do that and you also

2912
01:46:57,370 --> 01:46:55,100
you know you give your sources all the

2913
01:46:59,229 --> 01:46:57,380
time every time you know and you even in

2914
01:47:00,790 --> 01:46:59,239
this talk alone in this two-hour talk

2915
01:47:02,830 --> 01:47:00,800
we've I you know I'm gonna have to go

2916
01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:02,840
back I've probably got a thousand hours

2917
01:47:07,899 --> 01:47:05,600
of material now to go and research just

2918
01:47:09,970 --> 01:47:07,909
based on all the references to other

2919
01:47:11,729 --> 01:47:09,980
work which i think is great I don't have

2920
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:11,739
that type of memory to be able to that

2921
01:47:15,459 --> 01:47:13,850
well I just do it all the time I don't

2922
01:47:16,959 --> 01:47:15,469
have a good memory either but the thing

2923
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:16,969
is I just do it all the time but to see

2924
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:18,530
then if you say say somebody was wanting

2925
01:47:21,370 --> 01:47:20,330
to study the symbolism thing I'd have a

2926
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:21,380
whole bunch of different authors for

2927
01:47:25,330 --> 01:47:22,850
them say they were interested in history

2928
01:47:27,189 --> 01:47:25,340
of Christianity the Templars you know I

2929
01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:27,199
I have gone through all of this subject

2930
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:29,030
matter all my life and had been able to

2931
01:47:33,580 --> 01:47:32,090
synthesize the best of the best I mean

2932
01:47:34,930 --> 01:47:33,590
actually by reading it so you know I

2933
01:47:37,169 --> 01:47:34,940
read maybe 20 books a week

2934
01:47:40,060 --> 01:47:37,179
20 bucks a month excuse me and therefore

2935
01:47:41,979 --> 01:47:40,070
over the years just by the simple act of

2936
01:47:44,530 --> 01:47:41,989
doing that you find out who is just

2937
01:47:46,630 --> 01:47:44,540
utterly worthless or only half good and

2938
01:47:48,850 --> 01:47:46,640
who's absolutely bloody marvelous you

2939
01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:48,860
know so say I was talking about Egypt or

2940
01:47:52,810 --> 01:47:50,960
you know then you then or the Bible then

2941
01:47:55,300 --> 01:47:52,820
I got my Tony Bush B's and my graph

2942
01:47:57,130 --> 01:47:55,310
Ellis's and Mustafa get dollars and

2943
01:47:58,270 --> 01:47:57,140
acumen Osmonds you know so it depends

2944
01:47:59,770 --> 01:47:58,280
from which school you're coming if

2945
01:48:01,570 --> 01:47:59,780
you're talking more on the psychological

2946
01:48:03,660 --> 01:48:01,580
aspect then you have you know different

2947
01:48:05,950 --> 01:48:03,670
people to recommend and and all of this

2948
01:48:07,149 --> 01:48:05,960
symbolism of course is very very

2949
01:48:09,459 --> 01:48:07,159
important so you have different people

2950
01:48:11,979 --> 01:48:09,469
to recommend their Judaism the history

2951
01:48:14,830 --> 01:48:11,989
of Judaism I can save people you know

2952
01:48:18,060 --> 01:48:14,840
centuries there you know by recommending

2953
01:48:22,770 --> 01:48:18,070
things that they should read so it's a

2954
01:48:24,790 --> 01:48:22,780
it's about eclectically having your

2955
01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:24,800
fingers on the pulse of all of this

2956
01:48:28,570 --> 01:48:26,239
different subject matter because I'm not

2957
01:48:30,700 --> 01:48:28,580
an I'm not an arrow guy I don't get only

2958
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:30,710
fanatical at one area and beat that to

2959
01:48:33,459 --> 01:48:32,239
death because then you become sort of

2960
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:33,469
partisan then you become sort of

2961
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:35,090
obsessed and by the moment that you do

2962
01:48:37,899 --> 01:48:36,290
that you're missing other key

2963
01:48:39,580 --> 01:48:37,909
information over here that you may not

2964
01:48:42,310 --> 01:48:39,590
be interested in this is also what's

2965
01:48:43,780 --> 01:48:42,320
happening a lot in this movement like

2966
01:48:45,340 --> 01:48:43,790
for instance you know you barely see

2967
01:48:47,410 --> 01:48:45,350
anyone in this revisionist movement ever

2968
01:48:49,570 --> 01:48:47,420
talking about philosophy or psychology

2969
01:48:51,729 --> 01:48:49,580
and very few ever talking about

2970
01:48:53,919 --> 01:48:51,739
catastrophism and they should be and it

2971
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:53,929
would help their work to do so yeah when

2972
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:55,370
I first came into the movement nobody

2973
01:48:57,699 --> 01:48:56,570
but nobody was even speaking about

2974
01:48:59,439 --> 01:48:57,709
Ireland

2975
01:49:01,270 --> 01:48:59,449
and the incredible reservoir of

2976
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:01,280
knowledge that you get from studying the

2977
01:49:05,799 --> 01:49:04,010
irish celts not the celts but the irish

2978
01:49:07,509 --> 01:49:05,809
and then the celts and so on you know so

2979
01:49:10,540 --> 01:49:07,519
there's as I said it's because it's part

2980
01:49:12,459 --> 01:49:10,550
the early days yet and half the greatest

2981
01:49:13,839 --> 01:49:12,469
books on any of these subjects have only

2982
01:49:15,549 --> 01:49:13,849
come up within a very short period of

2983
01:49:16,660 --> 01:49:15,559
time remember I was saying about the

2984
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:16,670
healing and that we were in a short

2985
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:18,170
early period of time that's also

2986
01:49:21,219 --> 01:49:19,610
corroborated by the fact that some of

2987
01:49:22,929 --> 01:49:21,229
the greatest discoveries have only been

2988
01:49:24,459 --> 01:49:22,939
made in about the last twenty thirty

2989
01:49:26,919 --> 01:49:24,469
years and even some people could argue

2990
01:49:28,359 --> 01:49:26,929
within 20 years some of the great

2991
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:28,369
authors I would mention their books of

2992
01:49:33,549 --> 01:49:30,800
only but not including my own within a

2993
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:33,559
very very short period of time so again

2994
01:49:42,509 --> 01:49:35,570
you know even though there's been great

2995
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:42,519
champions before it's only now

2996
01:49:46,449 --> 01:49:44,570
especially in the field of Judaism for

2997
01:49:50,109 --> 01:49:46,459
instance right now we have many Jews

2998
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:50,119
themselves blowing the whistle on the

2999
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:51,920
lie of Israel and on the lie of you know

3000
01:49:56,620 --> 01:49:54,050
the Israelites Jewish men people I can

3001
01:49:58,660 --> 01:49:56,630
mention and have mentioned actually

3002
01:50:00,489 --> 01:49:58,670
Jewish authors themselves like

3003
01:50:03,310 --> 01:50:00,499
sand and others who are coming out from

3004
01:50:05,500 --> 01:50:03,320
within these organizations and showing

3005
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:05,510
you yeah it's built on lies it's built

3006
01:50:08,379 --> 01:50:06,530
on mind-control

3007
01:50:09,609 --> 01:50:08,389
there isn't any science to back it up on

3008
01:50:11,649 --> 01:50:09,619
the science that's been handed to you is

3009
01:50:14,589 --> 01:50:11,659
bogus science it's all propaganda you

3010
01:50:18,250 --> 01:50:14,599
know there's a huge propaganda machinery

3011
01:50:20,169 --> 01:50:18,260
at least in the world so the one thing I

3012
01:50:21,549 --> 01:50:20,179
will say is that yeah I do in fact read

3013
01:50:24,219 --> 01:50:21,559
the books I just don't read like a

3014
01:50:25,660 --> 01:50:24,229
comment or two on some Amazon website or

3015
01:50:28,839 --> 01:50:25,670
whatever you know I really buy the books

3016
01:50:31,060 --> 01:50:28,849
I read them I study meticulously and try

3017
01:50:32,290 --> 01:50:31,070
to then summarize the best parts of the

3018
01:50:34,179 --> 01:50:32,300
book so if people go to my astral

3019
01:50:36,819 --> 01:50:34,189
theology side or the Irish origin side

3020
01:50:40,029 --> 01:50:36,829
and go to those appendices areas they

3021
01:50:42,279 --> 01:50:40,039
will see very detailed summaries of some

3022
01:50:44,140 --> 01:50:42,289
great books you know they would cost a

3023
01:50:46,270 --> 01:50:44,150
lot for people to buy and a hell of a

3024
01:50:47,410 --> 01:50:46,280
lot of time to read and even if you did

3025
01:50:49,089 --> 01:50:47,420
read it you might not even be able to

3026
01:50:50,850 --> 01:50:49,099
you know summarize or realize why this

3027
01:50:53,049 --> 01:50:50,860
book is important I've done that work

3028
01:50:54,580 --> 01:50:53,059
myself for a lot for people to go on

3029
01:50:56,770 --> 01:50:54,590
there my websites and check it out and

3030
01:50:58,209 --> 01:50:56,780
on a little bit lesser level on the

3031
01:51:01,569 --> 01:50:58,219
forum I try to do the same thing you

3032
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:01,579
know so but but that certainly does mean

3033
01:51:04,330 --> 01:51:03,110
that I have my I do have my favorite

3034
01:51:06,759 --> 01:51:04,340
authors there's some pretty standard

3035
01:51:09,370 --> 01:51:06,769
authors that are absolutely crucial I

3036
01:51:11,260 --> 01:51:09,380
mean absolutely crucial to know about

3037
01:51:12,580 --> 01:51:11,270
I'm excited to go and check it all out I

3038
01:51:14,500 --> 01:51:12,590
mean I've checked out obviously in this

3039
01:51:16,300 --> 01:51:14,510
week's and talking to you I've been just

3040
01:51:17,770 --> 01:51:16,310
hitting your material as hard as

3041
01:51:19,930 --> 01:51:17,780
possible because I mean I asked you

3042
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:19,940
after watching Architects in control and

3043
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:21,770
I was shocked that you were you know

3044
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:24,650
willing to come on the show and talk to

3045
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:26,090
us about this stuff and it's great I

3046
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:29,840
appreciate it immensely but uh just to

3047
01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:31,370
wrap it up and let you carry on with

3048
01:51:33,310 --> 01:51:31,760
your day

3049
01:51:35,919 --> 01:51:33,320
just wrap it up like what are you

3050
01:51:37,300 --> 01:51:35,929
working on right now lots of things as I

3051
01:51:39,850 --> 01:51:37,310
said the tree of life and trying to get

3052
01:51:42,189 --> 01:51:39,860
that together and we're revising all of

3053
01:51:44,709 --> 01:51:42,199
my three books doing it just a normal

3054
01:51:46,180 --> 01:51:44,719
update on those and various DVD projects

3055
01:51:48,550 --> 01:51:46,190
slowly working on those I mean a lot of

3056
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:48,560
online stuff so it's unbelievable you

3057
01:51:52,450 --> 01:51:51,290
know it's not a moment to there's not

3058
01:51:54,250 --> 01:51:52,460
even a moment to blink you know it's

3059
01:51:56,620 --> 01:51:54,260
just such a busy time right now well I

3060
01:51:58,270 --> 01:51:56,630
really appreciate you coming on and

3061
01:52:01,450 --> 01:51:58,280
doing this because this is very

3062
01:52:03,729 --> 01:52:01,460
educational for me so I just wanted to

3063
01:52:05,169 --> 01:52:03,739
say thank you well thank you and we'll

3064
01:52:06,490 --> 01:52:05,179
certainly you know if you're up to do it

3065
01:52:08,890 --> 01:52:06,500
again there's a lot of other errors to

3066
01:52:10,570 --> 01:52:08,900
go into you know so be happy to it's

3067
01:52:13,090 --> 01:52:10,580
always a pleasure for me to speak with

3068
01:52:14,830 --> 01:52:13,100
people who actually know things and then

3069
01:52:16,419 --> 01:52:14,840
have questions about it as opposed to

3070
01:52:18,459 --> 01:52:16,429
hosts who really don't have a clue you

3071
01:52:21,100 --> 01:52:18,469
know and haven't got the right motives

3072
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:21,110
you know it appears to people that I do

3073
01:52:24,340 --> 01:52:22,370
a lot of interviews and in fact I

3074
01:52:26,620 --> 01:52:24,350
actually do not do a lot of conferences

3075
01:52:28,300 --> 01:52:26,630
or interviews for the very purpose of

3076
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:28,310
you know the people just don't have

3077
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:30,080
integrity or the right for themselves or

3078
01:52:33,610 --> 01:52:31,730
what it might be so you know I'm always

3079
01:52:36,010 --> 01:52:33,620
glad to come on when there is knowledge

3080
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:36,020
there and there's the eagerness so you

3081
01:52:39,459 --> 01:52:37,280
know thank you for giving me that time

3082
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:39,469
as well yeah I mean I'm obviously a

3083
01:52:44,379 --> 01:52:41,330
layman we're both laymen but you know we

3084
01:52:47,950 --> 01:52:44,389
have an incredible interest and I mean I

3085
01:52:50,379 --> 01:52:47,960
feel fulfilled of course well see I'm

3086
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:50,389
also a layman I always maintain and say

3087
01:52:55,209 --> 01:52:52,130
clearly that I am no expert on any of

3088
01:52:57,580 --> 01:52:55,219
these things the jury is always out I

3089
01:52:59,530 --> 01:52:57,590
could be wrong and everything we're all

3090
01:53:01,300 --> 01:52:59,540
in a prompt in fact so much of my work

3091
01:53:02,649 --> 01:53:01,310
is collaborative people send me stuff on

3092
01:53:03,910 --> 01:53:02,659
a daily basis sometimes you know

3093
01:53:06,399 --> 01:53:03,920
hundreds and hundreds of things a week

3094
01:53:08,169 --> 01:53:06,409
that's one thing and secondly I'm always

3095
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:08,179
keeping an open mind I always think that

3096
01:53:11,860 --> 01:53:09,770
yeah what I've seen and what I've

3097
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:11,870
learned you know of course you you

3098
01:53:15,459 --> 01:53:13,730
proceed by assuming that you're right

3099
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:15,469
although as you couldn't move out of bed

3100
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:17,570
in the morning but you always keep the

3101
01:53:21,879 --> 01:53:20,000
intellectual openness to realize that

3102
01:53:23,260 --> 01:53:21,889
not only could you be completely wrong

3103
01:53:25,060 --> 01:53:23,270
but you need to always be can

3104
01:53:26,830 --> 01:53:25,070
you always need to be actively thinking

3105
01:53:28,900 --> 01:53:26,840
about the opposite position that you're

3106
01:53:30,910 --> 01:53:28,910
taking and I do that a lot and I think a

3107
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:30,920
lot of people do not do this they become

3108
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:33,610
obsessed you know but I don't I I'm very

3109
01:53:38,410 --> 01:53:36,290
strong when I advocate what I believe to

3110
01:53:39,610 --> 01:53:38,420
be the case but I always personally keep

3111
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:39,620
an open mind to say yeah well maybe

3112
01:53:42,490 --> 01:53:41,090
that's completing the opposite in fact

3113
01:53:44,350 --> 01:53:42,500
what is the opposite let me study that

3114
01:53:47,170 --> 01:53:44,360
and then as I said by going through all

3115
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:47,180
these different books that come out I'm

3116
01:53:50,650 --> 01:53:48,410
also very aware of all at this

3117
01:53:52,060 --> 01:53:50,660
information I'm also very aware that if

3118
01:53:53,440 --> 01:53:52,070
you don't do what I do and you don't

3119
01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:53,450
help people go to the right sources

3120
01:53:57,730 --> 01:53:55,280
they're gonna probably be swamped with

3121
01:54:00,070 --> 01:53:57,740
all of this disinformation because now

3122
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:00,080
that the force now that the Big Brother

3123
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:01,970
has understood that there's a gigantic

3124
01:54:06,220 --> 01:54:04,250
movement throughout the world looking

3125
01:54:09,430 --> 01:54:06,230
for this truth and digging deeply they

3126
01:54:12,100 --> 01:54:09,440
have unleashed their own robots through

3127
01:54:14,440 --> 01:54:12,110
the publishing orbs to write books that

3128
01:54:16,750 --> 01:54:14,450
apparently are also revelatory in nature

3129
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:16,760
and this goes right across the board I

3130
01:54:20,110 --> 01:54:18,170
don't care if it's but Judaism of the

3131
01:54:22,060 --> 01:54:20,120
Knights Templar or the Magdalena and the

3132
01:54:23,740 --> 01:54:22,070
Grail and whatever else and yet those

3133
01:54:25,030 --> 01:54:23,750
books are loaded with this information

3134
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:25,040
to put you off on the wrong track

3135
01:54:28,480 --> 01:54:26,690
so it's very my work is also very

3136
01:54:29,890 --> 01:54:28,490
deconstructive in that way as well is to

3137
01:54:31,750 --> 01:54:29,900
point you in the direction of the great

3138
01:54:33,790 --> 01:54:31,760
minds that you totally need to have in

3139
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:33,800
your library but also to be kind of wary

3140
01:54:39,460 --> 01:54:36,410
of those who are unleashed by the beast

3141
01:54:41,140 --> 01:54:39,470
so to speak to have extremely high level

3142
01:54:42,670 --> 01:54:41,150
publishing deals and this even goes for

3143
01:54:44,890 --> 01:54:42,680
the media this even goes for the tech of

3144
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:44,900
shows that are not being produced on BBC

3145
01:54:51,070 --> 01:54:47,570
and PBS in America that are dabbling

3146
01:54:53,290 --> 01:54:51,080
into this occult stuff that Jordan

3147
01:54:54,610 --> 01:54:53,300
Maxwell and others and myself have been

3148
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:54,620
dealing with for years and years and

3149
01:54:58,780 --> 01:54:56,090
years they're literally plagiarizing and

3150
01:55:00,610 --> 01:54:58,790
directly plagiarizing and then putting

3151
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:00,620
it on there with their own little spoon

3152
01:55:04,510 --> 01:55:03,050
and then trying to tell you know going

3153
01:55:06,310 --> 01:55:04,520
out to the millions who have never seen

3154
01:55:08,650 --> 01:55:06,320
this before and then believe that oh

3155
01:55:10,870 --> 01:55:08,660
isn't it wonderful that the BBC have

3156
01:55:13,510 --> 01:55:10,880
finally told us the truth about Jesus

3157
01:55:16,300 --> 01:55:13,520
and the crucifixion or the cults of the

3158
01:55:17,620 --> 01:55:16,310
ancient world I know that poor guy

3159
01:55:19,390 --> 01:55:17,630
sitting there in suburbia hasn't the

3160
01:55:20,830 --> 01:55:19,400
faintest idea that people lived and died

3161
01:55:22,620 --> 01:55:20,840
and sweated blood to bring that

3162
01:55:25,030 --> 01:55:22,630
knowledge out from the recesses of the

3163
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:25,040
underworld you know but now you click on

3164
01:55:29,410 --> 01:55:26,690
your remote control and there's a you

3165
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:29,420
know BBC doing it or the Discovery

3166
01:55:32,740 --> 01:55:31,130
Channel doing it so that also needs to

3167
01:55:34,300 --> 01:55:32,750
be taken in mind is I'm glad the

3168
01:55:36,550 --> 01:55:34,310
information is art better than not being

3169
01:55:38,140 --> 01:55:36,560
art but at the same time it's the mean

3170
01:55:39,610 --> 01:55:38,150
by which it's coming up so you're asking

3171
01:55:41,380 --> 01:55:39,620
me about oh yeah you know you're lame

3172
01:55:43,900 --> 01:55:41,390
and you just have this radio show it's

3173
01:55:45,850 --> 01:55:43,910
crucial the people with integrity who

3174
01:55:48,460 --> 01:55:45,860
will even have a person like me or

3175
01:55:50,650 --> 01:55:48,470
Jordan on you don't even know the good

3176
01:55:52,330 --> 01:55:50,660
that you're doing because right now our

3177
01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:52,340
knowledge is being eclipsed tanned

3178
01:55:56,410 --> 01:55:53,840
plagiarized and appropriated by the

3179
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:56,420
mainstream who are taking her doing it

3180
01:55:59,410 --> 01:55:57,920
precisely so the people like us don't

3181
01:56:01,240 --> 01:55:59,420
get our time on tell on mainstream

3182
01:56:03,220 --> 01:56:01,250
television they're absolutely making

3183
01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:03,230
sure that our voice doesn't reach the

3184
01:56:08,470 --> 01:56:06,560
public and they and one of the ways to

3185
01:56:09,550 --> 01:56:08,480
do that is to homogenize the knowledge I

3186
01:56:10,930 --> 01:56:09,560
know it sounds strange if you're not

3187
01:56:12,910 --> 01:56:10,940
familiar with this but this is what they

3188
01:56:15,130 --> 01:56:12,920
do the mainstream is plays a game it

3189
01:56:16,930 --> 01:56:15,140
walks in rhythm with you to find out you

3190
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:16,940
know always has its fingers on the pulse

3191
01:56:19,930 --> 01:56:18,170
of what's happening in the underworld

3192
01:56:21,700 --> 01:56:19,940
because it knows that that's where the

3193
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:21,710
Mavericks are that's where if those

3194
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:23,890
people were given ten minutes of TV time

3195
01:56:33,490 --> 01:56:31,060
so they cut you off at the pass so to

3196
01:56:35,710 --> 01:56:33,500
speak so in order for me to have a you

3197
01:56:38,260 --> 01:56:35,720
know two hours to speak freely and

3198
01:56:40,660 --> 01:56:38,270
openly and without censorship on any

3199
01:56:42,010 --> 01:56:40,670
public format is to me a very very

3200
01:56:43,510 --> 01:56:42,020
brilliant thing it's not to be

3201
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:43,520
underestimated it also again you know

3202
01:56:50,740 --> 01:56:46,610
you feel good about that the age of it

3203
01:56:52,270 --> 01:56:50,750
the age of the internet yeah exactly

3204
01:56:57,610 --> 01:56:52,280
well anyway guys thank you very much

3205
01:57:00,010 --> 01:56:57,620
again and more amazing thank you very

3206
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:00,020
much thanks have a good day best of luck

3207
01:57:03,970 --> 01:57:01,490
with the show huh you'll be able to get

3208
01:57:04,930 --> 01:57:03,980
me a copy right sure yeah I'll send you

3209
01:57:13,630 --> 01:57:04,940
a link when it's up

3210
01:57:22,100 --> 01:57:18,580
these are you and they in your church

3211
01:57:26,660 --> 01:57:22,110
America that can you recall drive you

3212
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:26,670
through the USA America's the greatest

3213
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:30,330
land of all on a highway or a road along

3214
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:34,560
a levee the pharmacist later nothing can